AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 They can’t change the training too much unless they want to change the style of play, can they? Of course they should be monitoring individuals and managing the stress on them, but I would expect they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) Our training is clearly really good, due to what we are seeing on the pitch. Just unlucky and it’s frustrating Edited October 16, 2022 by Andy84 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ash said: Muscular injuries aren’t bad luck. I mean, they quite clearly can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just a knock, nothing to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 On the positive, Isak has played 30+ games in the last 3 seasons, so hopefully it's not a habit for him to be missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, David Edgar said: I'm fairly confident saying that whilst modern sports science will be bloody brilliant at monitoring and treating muscles, it isn't gonna be absolutely 1/1 perfect. And in any field, you can get a run of bad luck out of the blue without any causation from what you're doing. I don't know how long you go before saying, "yeah, this is Howe and his team's fault" but I think we're probably way too early for that. It isn’t perfect, no. However, there is plenty of preventive stuff out there and ways to manage training loads, etc. The main issue at the minute is players suffering setbacks so there’s clearly something amiss in terms of what we’re doing in recovery which is nothing to do with luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 It still could be bad luck, but that is a good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I'd prefer them over trained with the risk of injury, than under trained and the risk of being shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) It isn't like being well trained and training to reduce injury risk are mutually exclusive Edited October 16, 2022 by David Edgar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I tell you what, I'm going to be furious (knowing fine well Wilson can't play three games in a week and there's no other option) when Wood comes on/starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Knew this would happen once Derek Wright left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just going off the thread title, is he OK for the Everton game ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, madras said: Just going off the thread title, is he OK for the Everton game ? I was about to ask that. Maybe he gets injured in the Everton game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Desperate to see us field our best xi. Grating as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Ffs. Going to be after the world cup when we actually see everyone together. What was Howe's injury record like at Bournemouth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 He came back with an injury from international duty didn't he? If it was linked to his fitness issues with us then he shouldn't have gone there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Is his injury linked to being here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Just a knock, nothing to worry about. He’ll have missed at least 6 games with this ‘knock’ alone, that’s roughly 16% of the season. When are we allowed to worry? People also say Wilson is injury prone so it doesn’t count but hes played under Howe for a huge chunk of his career so surely we can still question his methods? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: He’ll have missed at least 6 games with this ‘knock’ alone, that’s roughly 16% of the season. When are we allowed to worry? People also say Wilson is injury prone so it doesn’t count but hes played under Howe for a huge chunk of his career so surely we can still question his methods? We're not allowed, well not on here anyway. See ASM 'just a knock' is now several games as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Here they are.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 The players who aren't suited to this sort of tactic will eventually be moved on and replaced with players who are used to this sort of setup. I'd be surprised if Isak's injury is a result of training when he was only here 5 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 It's probably a case of too much too soon for both Isak and ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, LV said: Here they are.. So we sign a player who plays for 3 games then he’s out for at least 6. He’s the 5th person this season with injuries - we say that’s questionable and get a ‘here they are’ response to say we’re idiots or something. When there’s this many you’d do well to try and learn from mistakes is all I’m saying. A lot of our players always seem to have injury issues and I really don’t want to see isak going the same way. Try to be proactive instead of reactive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I seem to remember non contact muscle injuries have been a problem for us for around 20 years. But no, it must be Eddie’s methods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I would imagine these sort of injuries would become ever more rare as we invest in state of the art training facilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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