et tu brute Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Rod said: Jackie, we will take these "corrupt" feckers down. I couldn't give a shit if they are Lords or whatever. Corruption is corruption no matter your upbringing. It's an arbitration tribunal set up by the Premier League within their rules. With one nomination from the Premier League, one for City and a joint agreement by both for the 3rd (otherwise appointed by the FA if no agreement). We are still waiting for the tribunal's written explanation, to confirm if the rules in their entirety are unlawful. The rules voted for today could be quickly thrown out if that explanation states unlawful, otherwise they will remain if the tribunal decides it is lawful (unlikely in my opinion, but then again I though the vote would have been pulled yesterday). I honestly think this has been rushed through to attempt to stop open season when/if the tribunal decision comes through in agreement with City's argument. This gives the Premier League time to further kick the can down the road (as we know they love to do). I agree that it is corrupt and totally unacceptable how another club (or 16 in this case) can basically stop an individual club from running and investing in its own business. People say, but it's a football club and needs to be governed. This is correct in terms of the rules of the game and what happens on the pitch, but football clubs (like it or not) are first and foremost businesses and shouldn't have their investment curtailed by another club (business). I wish either us or City (or the actual sponsor) would say no I'm not accepting your corrupt process and take it to the competition/external courts as the whole thing would be blown apart. Premier League may attempt to throw the clubs out, but I'm quite sure the government would get seriously involved then (as they threatened during the Super League). Hopefully we will get the tribunal explanation promptly and see what happens with that. The PSR and APT rules are both totally anti competitive and would not be allowed in any other industry. Edited 8 hours ago by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago I’m actually getting to the point where I’m starting to support anyone vs the cartel top 6 clubs minus City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, et tu brute said: I honestly think this has been rushed through to attempt to stop open season when/if the tribunal decision comes through in agreement with City's argument. This gives the Premier League time to further kick the can down the road (as we know they love to do). Kick the can down the road as in if the tribunal favour City again, it'll bring another legal challenge from them and then everyone who wants to benefit from APT's will have to further wait? Edited 4 hours ago by Scoot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Scoot said: Kick the can down the road as in if the tribunal favour City again, it'll bring another legal challenge and then everyone who wants to benefit from APT's will have to further wait? Yeah the Premier League will go back stating that they have changed the rules and City will argue that the rules are still unlawful. It's the reason why the premier league didn't wait for the tribunal clarification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago The sooner the whole of PL, CL etc crashes and burns the better. Sick of hearing about FFP etc when it's related to income, football has a spending issue not an income one. I actually detest the sport nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Scoot said: Kick the can down the road as in if the tribunal favour City again, it'll bring another legal challenge from them and then everyone who wants to benefit from APT's will have to further wait? It depends on the tribunal's final determination, they might well confirm that the APT rules and even PSR as a whole is void from 2021 until there are lawful rules in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, El Prontonise said: The sooner the whole of PL, CL etc crashes and burns the better. Sick of hearing about FFP etc when it's related to income, football has a spending issue not an income one. I actually detest the sport nowadays. This is absolutely it. I'm not saying it's the answer but capping salaries and transfer fees is probably closer to balancing the playing field than the existing model but even that has its issues. Sadly, it's the way of the world but how agents and footballers themselves make so much money and yet nurses etc. Get paid a pittance by comparison is just an absolute microcosm of what a bizarre species we are. Edited 2 hours ago by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago If this is to be believed the rules were basically written in a way to win Everton's vote. https://x.com/CitizenSuburbia/status/1859995262074368353 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: If this is to be believed the rules were basically written in a way to win Everton's vote. https://x.com/CitizenSuburbia/status/1859995262074368353 Pure scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago There will be plenty of deals being done in exchange for votes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago I know it's a wild suggestion but perhaps the PL could check the legality of the rules before they actually introduce them? Like get the rules signed off by a team of judges as being valid prior to presenting them to be voted upon? Crazy, I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted 44 minutes ago Share Posted 44 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, midds said: I know it's a wild suggestion but perhaps the PL could check the legality of the rules before they actually introduce them? Like get the rules signed off by a team of judges as being valid prior to presenting them to be voted upon? Crazy, I know Exactly- just makes me think the FA and/or whoever else are entirely inept and/or corrupt too. Doesn't come as a surprise mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted 41 minutes ago Share Posted 41 minutes ago This just seems like it's going to purposely rumble on for years with no clear answer as to what the fuck is allowed and not allowed. All thos effort just to try and stop us eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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