LFEE Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Our press on the opposition back five has disappeared and the biggest factor in our change of form IMO. Obviously not taking any half chances or the rare good chance hasn’t helped either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: I think the recent Athletic article also suggested that our attacking play is incredibly predictable now. It almost all goes down the right where we have an incredibly predictable Almiron and Trippier whom almost everything we do goes through; our main tactic this season has been tailored for allowing him to bomb on on top of the fact that he takes every attacking set piece we have. Targett and ASM on the left would change that, otherwise teams just need to surround Bruno and overload our right to stifle our attack; we have nothing on the LW as Burn doesn't offer much going forward and the left sided attacker, be that ASM or Gordon, is often on his own as a result. It was a good article that, but one thing that the passing matrix overlooks is the makeup of our left side. As you say, there frequently isn't the option to pass to Burn. Then Joelinton and ASM are often the left winger, who are more likely to run at the defender, as opposed to Almiron who will check back and try the give and go. We undoubtedly need a left back in the summer to add a bit of balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Our press on the opposition back five has disappeared and the biggest factor in our change of form IMO. Obviously not taking any half chances or the rare good chance hasn’t helped either. Teams sitting deep and allowing us the lion's share of the ball regularly has affected that. It began with Leeds in the second half, thought first half they actually come out pressing us but they dropped deeper and deeper as the game went on yet we still could've had at least 2 goals in that half had we brought our shooting boots. Fulham, Palace, Bournemouth and West Ham to a degree (only a certain degree as they were probably the better side in the first half) have all done the same as Leeds in that second half since. Man Utd did in the final also albeit having played the Thursday before and found themselves with a 2 goal lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, LFEE said: Our press on the opposition back five has disappeared and the biggest factor in our change of form IMO. Obviously not taking any half chances or the rare good chance hasn’t helped either. It's difficult to press a risk adverse opponent who deploys a solid low block though. The press should be a tool in our armoury, but we're too over reliant on it. Opponents are happy to counter it by sitting deep and turning the ball over to us. As soon as we have the quality to break teams down on a more regular basis, it'll come back into play. Liverpool are the best example I can think of. One of the best pressing teams in world football, but they also have the quality to punish you if you end up sitting in your eighteen yard box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, LFEE said: Our press on the opposition back five has disappeared and the biggest factor in our change of form IMO. Obviously not taking any half chances or the rare good chance hasn’t helped either. I agree but 2nd half against City was probably the 1st time, in a very long time, we pressed the opposition back five and caused a few errors by City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 It's games like these where I'd like to see ASM and Isak start. Both are a bit unpredictable, skilful and aren't afraid to get a shot off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It was a good article that, but one thing that the passing matrix overlooks is the makeup of our left side. As you say, there frequently isn't the option to pass to Burn. Then Joelinton and ASM are often the left winger, who are more likely to run at the defender, as opposed to Almiron who will check back and try the give and go. We undoubtedly need a left back in the summer to add a bit of balance. We have a good natural LB sat on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, OverThere said: We have a good natural LB sat on the bench. Targett? You'd imagine he'll come in when he's match sharp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Targett? You'd imagine he'll come in when he's match sharp. Hmmm match sharp you need matches. At some point Id rather see him start and then be subbed out at 60+ minutes rather than the other way around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, OverThere said: Hmmm match sharp you need matches. At some point Id rather see him start and then be subbed out at 60+ minutes rather than the other way around My bad, I meant fitness. It depends if he's currently capable of 60 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I would like to see this team against wolves, resting a couple of players who have looked a bit jaded… —————pope————- trip——schar—-botman——targett Longsta—-bruno—gordon —-miggy——-isak——-ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Would probably have lo gstaff sitting and bruno on right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I would play St Max and Gordon, give Almiron a rest he looks shot. I’m sure Gordon can play on the right and if Wilson is playing might even lend itself to getting some crosses in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Providing the balance is right I want to see at least 20 mins of Isak and Wilson together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 A win tomorrow would be massive with Brighton, Brentford and Liverpool all giving away points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Feels like a lot of pressure this one with our form and the table jumbling up behind us. Win and we’re 5th, even chasing 4th with the games in hand. Lose and we’re looking as far behind our shoulders as 10th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Please win tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 points between 5th and 10th is pretty mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 One of those games tomorrow where all that matters is the result, the performance can go hang as long as we get the three points on the board. To quote a certain N Warnock "it might be a nob end in the 90th minute" but we just need to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Pilko said: One of those games tomorrow where all that matters is the result, the performance can go hang as long as we get the three points on the board. To quote a certain N Warnock "it might be a nob end in the 90th minute" but we just need to win. I get your point, but I do think that'll just be delaying the inevitable a little bit in terms of our season. I'm not asking to trash them but we could do with putting the ball in the net at least twice to prove first wasn't a fluke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 He's going to start Wilson again isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: He's going to start Wilson again isn't he? I don't think so, I'm inclined to think what he said in the presser was to throw them off the scent, the way it was worded and the way it was printed were at odds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Nervous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Feels like CL hopes hinge on getting back to winning ways tomorrow, actually think if we do win we’ve got a bloody good chance. Still got Spurs and Mancs to play at home with games in hand, all to play for and think we’ll nick this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, 80 said: I get your point, but I do think that'll just be delaying the inevitable a little bit in terms of our season. I'm not asking to trash them but we could do with putting the ball in the net at least twice to prove first wasn't a fluke. Nah, I'm inclined to think that getting a league win even if it involves "winning ugly" then provides the platform and the confidence to then start playing well and getting back to the pre-WC form we saw. I hate myself for even saying this but I remember a game in the 5th placed Pardew season which was similar - Norwich at home and we played some mad formation with Gutierrez at fullback and Cabaye wide left, it was ugly and minging and shit but we shuffled a 1-0 win out of it and then went on that class run of form where Cisse was banging them in and we were winning games for fun. Kinda has that feel about it except without a dickhead in the dugout and a row of cunts in the directors seats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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