NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Kimbo]

Palestra is a complete non-story unless Livramento is leaving, and it’s all gone quiet on that front.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

We havent seen this reported elsewhere though have we? I mean on these shores? 

Reported by Newcastle World a few days ago 

[Funtime Frankie]

Just now, Kimbo said:

Palestra is a complete non-story unless Livramento is leaving, and it’s all gone quiet on that front.

I think he is a non story full stop due to no European football and this maybe a common issue through the whole window.

 

He would be an attacking upgrade on Livra tho and will become one of the best RB in the world.

 

Doué looks like an option we should go for as well as Mingueza on a free.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, Funtime Frankie said:

I think he is a non story full stop due to no European football and this maybe a common issue through the whole window.

 

He would be an attacking upgrade on Livra tho and will become one of the best RB in the world.

 

Doué looks like an option we should go for as well as Mingueza on a free.

I doubt that a Europa / Conference League qualification would make a blind bit of difference.  Our being in the CL didn’t seem to make much of a difference last summer.  If a player views themselves as ready for a move to an elite club, they’re not likely to be joining. 

[Mikky]

2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Linked with Union Saint-Gilloise’s winger Anan Khalaili in the weekly athletic deal sheet.

No thanks 

[Kanj]

The whole CL football being a key factor in transfers is the biggest lie in football. It’s all about wages first and last. 

[Funtime Frankie]

26 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I doubt that a Europa / Conference League qualification would make a blind bit of difference.  Our being in the CL didn’t seem to make much of a difference last summer.  If a player views themselves as ready for a move to an elite club, they’re not likely to be joining. 

I think last summer and the elite clubs was down to one thing and it was wages.

 

Players know our wage structure and know at Chelsea and Manchester United they are easily able to get 50% higher.

 

The only exception to this was Sesko but he knows two good seasons and he will be on a wage higher than our top earner.

 

 

[John P]

1 minute ago, Kanj said:

The whole CL football being a key factor in transfers is the biggest lie in football. It’s all about wages first and last. 

Didn't the club ask Thiaw in his first interview how much of a factor CL football was and his answer was basically that he wasn't that bothered?

[The Larch]

16 minutes ago, Kanj said:

The whole CL football being a key factor in transfers is the biggest lie in football. It’s all about wages first and last. 

The only other thing is that champions league is more of a shop window for players looking to use the club as a stepping stone (such as Gordon).

 

Also, any player wanting to win the ballon d'or is going to want to be in the champions league.

 

But I agree for the vast majority of players - they will just go to who pays them the most.

[TheBrownBottle]

17 minutes ago, Funtime Frankie said:

I think last summer and the elite clubs was down to one thing and it was wages.

 

Players know our wage structure and know at Chelsea and Manchester United they are easily able to get 50% higher.

 

The only exception to this was Sesko but he knows two good seasons and he will be on a wage higher than our top earner.

 

 

I think there’s more to it than that tbh - I think there is an appeal to the bigger clubs generally (given the choice between Man Utd and Newcastle, the vast, vast majority of footballers would pick Man Utd unless we were blowing them out of the water on wages), and also simply playing in the biggest competition isn’t enough for top players - they want to actually win it

[TRon]

56 minutes ago, Funtime Frankie said:

I think last summer and the elite clubs was down to one thing and it was wages.

 

Players know our wage structure and know at Chelsea and Manchester United they are easily able to get 50% higher.

 

The only exception to this was Sesko but he knows two good seasons and he will be on a wage higher than our top earner.

 

 

 

 

Which is why it's the right strategy to stop trying to compete with those clubs and try and get the younger unproven talents instead. 

[The College Dropout]

7 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Which is why it's the right strategy to stop trying to compete with those clubs and try and get the younger unproven talents instead. 

Nit picking here but they don’t have to be unproven - we just need to move early.  The likes of Isak, Bruno and Tonali weren’t unproven but we moved early. 
 

Theres loads of players like that available every season. 

[TRon]

27 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Nit picking here but they don’t have to be unproven - we just need to move early.  The likes of Isak, Bruno and Tonali weren’t unproven but we moved early. 
 

Theres loads of players like that available every season. 

 

 

It does feel like since the success of those signings we are getting klaxon alerts going off at cartel clubs whenever we make a move now though. Maybe a bit harder to move early as a result. 

[duo]

2 hours ago, John P said:

Guess we're not one of the teams paying him so he doesn't give us the preferential treatment

Nailed it

[MagPar]

Not much transfer action so 

Happy Birthday Michael J Fox

[macphisto]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

It does feel like since the success of those signings we are getting klaxon alerts going off at cartel clubs whenever we make a move now though. Maybe a bit harder to move early as a result. 

That's just based on one transfer window. One where we had no senior management in place. We can't go off one transfer window in terms of trends.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

 

It does feel like since the success of those signings we are getting klaxon alerts going off at cartel clubs whenever we make a move now though. Maybe a bit harder to move early as a result. 

It’s really just Chelsea and maybe Spurs. 
 

We were 12 months early on Guehi but didn’t want to meet the valuation. We were 12 months late on Mbeumo, the time to move was the season earlier.  
 

[The College Dropout]

There’s a lot of talented players out there. Do we trust our scouting, data analytics, profile fit and personality checks?

 

Top clubs are very risk averse.  
 

Cherki was sat at Lyon for ages. He played 3 full seasons and was widely regarded as a wonderkid. 

[Superbmac]

Our scouting has to be a top priority if we’re hampered with what we can spend.

[TRon]

51 minutes ago, macphisto said:

That's just based on one transfer window. One where we had no senior management in place. We can't go off one transfer window in terms of trends.

 

 

Yep, I would definitely expect improvement this time round on that score.