Tino Livramento

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

Attacking is definitely his weak side, but he does actually get into a lot of great positions, hopefully the rest can be worked on as he plays more and improves, needs a big stint with no injuries.

[Lotus]

Interesting this tactical development with Tino moving forward and infield.

 

Curious as to why it’s Tino and not Hall. Hall is the better footballer and Tino would more than hold his own in a temporary back 3 of him, Thiaw and Burn/Botman.

 

Eddie obvs has his reasons. Would be nice if one of the football experts to TV/video explained why they thought it was that way round.

[The Butcher]

6 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Interesting this tactical development with Tino moving forward and infield.

 

Curious as to why it’s Tino and not Hall. Hall is the better footballer and Tino would more than hold his own in a temporary back 3 of him, Thiaw and Burn/Botman.

 

Eddie obvs has his reasons. Would be nice if one of the football experts to TV/video explained why they thought it was that way round.

Our RWs, Murphy and Elenga hug the touchline, creating space inside.

 

 

Gordon and Barnes on the left often move inside, creating space for Hall on the outside.

[PCW1983]

The only negative thing I can say about Tino is that for some reason, when he runs, he looks like he’s about to fall over. 
 

Give the lad a new deal, £100m release clause. 

[Lotus]

37 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Our RWs, Murphy and Elenga hug the touchline, creating space inside.

 

 

Gordon and Barnes on the left often move inside, creating space for Hall on the outside.

or just ask @The Butcher 

[Deuce]

Hope saying his contract situation is being “delayed” in light of City interest 

[cubaricho]

4 hours ago, Lotus said:

Interesting this tactical development with Tino moving forward and infield.

 

Curious as to why it’s Tino and not Hall. Hall is the better footballer and Tino would more than hold his own in a temporary back 3 of him, Thiaw and Burn/Botman.

 

Eddie obvs has his reasons. Would be nice if one of the football experts to TV/video explained why they thought it was that way round.

To be fair, Hall finds himself in that #10 area of the pitch quite often.

[Weezertron]

Lets get back to signing footballers that support Newcastle, its the only layer of protection we have against the top 4.

[The Butcher]

He's a great defender, but his attacking play is not good enough for Man City atm.

[duo]

That's nothing that can't be coached but he should look at ait nouri whose carer looks to have stalled at City.

[Dr.Spaceman]

11 hours ago, The Butcher said:

He's a great defender, but his attacking play is not good enough for Man City atm.

 

No doubt there'll be some specific stats that Man City like the look of, obviously pass completion being one of them, likely coupled with the number of progressive passes p/g. Everything else is arbitrary - it doesn't matter about his defensive stats as he'll have a much easier job in a tactically drilled side (not saying we aren't, but Pep's Man City are off the scale) and he'll not be required to shoot, cross or even assist goals.

[Rich]

Walker did alright there for years and wasn’t much of a technician.

[r0cafella]

47 minutes ago, Rich said:

Walker did alright there for years and wasn’t much of a technician.

Aye he's perfect for them unfortunately. But given the paid 90m euro for Gvardiol we need at least that. 

[The College Dropout]

18 hours ago, TRC said:

Which is why I don’t see the City move. If O’Reilly is City’s left back I think they would want a more Lewis Hall style player at right back.

They need  solid fullback too. Like a Walker. Recovery pace. 1v1 demon. 

[The College Dropout]

There’s less defending to do at city but the defending is harder to do. At Newcastle we drop our line under pressure. We drop our line against good teams.  
 

At City you’ll have to defend from the halfway line against Real Madrid. That’s what Tino is for. 
 

I have a similar feeling to Isak re: Tino’s contract.  It should’ve been signed last year before he really established himself in the England setup and as a top defender in the league. When the top 6 realised we had stolen a march on them for Tino about 12-18 months ago. 
 

The old leadership over leveraged on contract lengths with Isak and they left us in that position with Tino.  He’s still on ‘bought as a 21 year old coming from the champ’ money right? When a player seems content to be underpaid for a long period of time they are looking at moving.  
 

We’ve not dealt with contracts well since Ashworth left. 
 

I keep saying it.  Palmer signed  long deal with Chelsea.  But got a new contract (even longer) within 16 months of signing.  It’s to keep him sweet. When players improve their levels (Tonali, Hall, Tino) they need to be paid well even if they have 3-4 years left on their contracts. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Easy to do if you have an unlimited wage budget. 

[Conjo]

On 11/12/2025 at 15:57, Lotus said:

Interesting this tactical development with Tino moving forward and infield.

 

Curious as to why it’s Tino and not Hall. Hall is the better footballer and Tino would more than hold his own in a temporary back 3 of him, Thiaw and Burn/Botman.

 

Eddie obvs has his reasons. Would be nice if one of the football experts to TV/video explained why they thought it was that way round.

 

I'm guessing it's because we have right footed right wingers that will mainly try to get on the outside of their fullback and cross, while we have right footed left wingers mainly trying to cut inside so Hall provides the width and crossing.

[LaurentRobert]

After the whole Isak saga I've mentally accepted that Tino and Tonali are likely to leave in the summer. 

 

I really hope it's not the case, but we should be demanding massive fees for both players at least. Like others have said, Gvardiol went for £80m after impressing in the World Cup, so I'd expect Tino to command a similar fee in the summer,  especially if he's in the World Cup squad. 

 

Tonali should also be valued at around £100m, so long as his recent dip in form doesn't continue. 

 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2025 by LaurentRobert

[TheBrownBottle]

On 12/12/2025 at 06:32, Weezertron said:

Let’s get back to signing footballers that support Newcastle, it’s the only layer of protection we have against the top 4.

I can remember Gascoigne and Carroll pushing for moves elsewhere - it’s not a guarantee of ‘loyalty’.   Nor should it be - we likely release dozens of local kids every season.  It’s a two-way door. 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, LaurentRobert said:

After the whole Isak saga I've mentally accepted that Tino and Tonali are likely to leave in the summer. 

 

I really hope it's not the case, but we should be demanding massive fees for both players at least. Like others have said, Gvardiol went for £80m after impressing in the World Cup, so I'd expect Tino to command a similar fee in the summer,  especially if he's in the World Cup squad. 

 

Tonali should also be valued at around £100m, so long as his recent dip in form doesn't continue. 

 

 

 

 

I can see both going; don’t think we’d get anything like those numbers for them.  Tonali isn’t a £100m midfielder - and Livramento’s passport will inflate his fee a bit, but no-one is paying that for a RB with potential but some apparent weaknesses. 

[r0cafella]

29 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I can see both going; don’t think we’d get anything like those numbers for them.  Tonali isn’t a £100m midfielder - and Livramento’s passport will inflate his fee a bit, but no-one is paying that for a RB with potential but some apparent weaknesses. 

Tonali is a much better player than Enzo who was over a 100m. 

 

Tino should command a higher premium than Gvardiol who city paid 90m euro for. We have our benchmarks it's weather we are competent at selling. (Not that I want to sell eitherl. 

[TheBrownBottle]

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Tonali is a much better player than Enzo who was over a 100m. 

 

Tino should command a higher premium than Gvardiol who city paid 90m euro for. We have our benchmarks it's weather we are competent at selling. (Not that I want to sell eitherl. 

I don’t want to sell them either, but if we do I’d be amazed if we get £100m for Tonali.  Enzo wasn’t worth that fee either.  I don’t think Tonali has shown anything like the consistency to command that sort of fee.  Our midfield is an ongoing issue, yet we always think they’re worth megabucks.  Isak’s fee tells me they’re not.

 

Livramento is more arguable of course - and his passport will add about 20% to his value.  

[Zero]

It really depends on how much City would offer. Tino is very ambitious and his injury record is also a concern. 
 

 

Hall, on the other hand, is not for sale at any price.

[TheBrownBottle]

10 minutes ago, Zero said:

It really depends on how much City would offer. Tino is very ambitious and his injury record is also a concern. 
 

 

Hall, on the other hand, is not for sale at any price.

They’re all for sale for a price - PSR dictates that.

 

I’m not worried about selling players - at least I know any money brought in will be spent.  I wouldn’t get overly attached to any player at the club. 

[Sibierski]

Tino has to be unsellable and we need to give him a strong contract. It’s not just he’s a good RB that can still progress, it’s he’s also a good LB. It’s two positions covered of quality, so when you are assembling a squad, you technically only need 3 natural full backs so funds/wages can be tied up elsewhere.