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It amuses me that this is one of the top US schools, yet none of the pupils, staff, or anyone else for that matter pronounces the name correctly.  Noter Dayme.  Morons.

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I read an american footballer was killed in a drive by on monday  bluebigeek.gif

 

Aye, Darrent Williams, a 24 year old Cornerback for the Denver Broncos.

 

I watched him play during the loss to the 49ers on New Years Eve just a few hours before his death, its totally shocking especially as he leaves two young bairns and all.

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A lineman from the Miami Hurricanes was 'shot-up' in a similar incident earlier in the NCAA regular season. A big problem with regards to these shootings, and this relates to NCAA and young NFL recruits with a gang-affiliated background - or have acquaintances along those lines, and it's a factor behind these incidents is the 'posse/gang mentality'. Guys like Williams have the worst type of 'hangers-on' around them. In the best of times they attract unwanted attention, but for these blokes they become targets - ie. Williams -  and these shooting incidents are somewhat inevitable due to them not abandoning their posse, whether it be 'crip' or 'blood'.

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Miami is a team full of thugs.

You can tell by their on-field antics every time a play is made that the players don't have the right discipline to be a D1 athlete.

Watching the fight against Florida International was, however, entertaining.

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http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6328968

 

Scroll down to the Fiesta Bowl.  One of the best American college football games ever.  Start with the 4th quarter highlights then move on the overtime highlights.

That was a fantastic game.

However, Boise State didn't deserve to be there, imo. If any mid-grade SEC team or better ACC team had the piss-poor schedule that they had, they'd be undefeated too. Bowl game was a fluke to me.

Mid-major conference...

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http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6328968

 

Scroll down to the Fiesta Bowl.  One of the best American college football games ever.  Start with the 4th quarter highlights then move on the overtime highlights.

 

That was a fantastic game.

However, Boise State didn't deserve to be there, imo. If any mid-grade SEC team or better ACC team had the piss-poor schedule that they had, they'd be undefeated too. Bowl game was a fluke to me.

Mid-major conference...

 

 

Disagree with regards to Boise State. They were competitive in their previous high profile bowl game - 2 years ago. Their offense this season, as compared to the aforementioned year, remains untouched name-wise, and they stepped up this season after a off-year. BSC rules stipulate that if a team from a non BSC conference goes top 12, in the AP rankings that is - and they generally have to go undefeated as Utah did a couple years back, they deserve a crack at one of the BSC games. They deserved their shot, and their offense gave Oklahoma all sorts of trouble. The result was unsurprising.

 

 

 

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Miami is a team full of thugs.

You can tell by their on-field antics every time a play is made that the players don't have the right discipline to be a D1 athlete.Watching the fight against Florida International was, however, entertaining.

 

An overblown and incorrect generalization imo. Similar to saying "Bellamy won't make it due him being a shithead and self-destructive".

 

Discipline, or a lack of, isn't a determining factor as to whether a player will make it at the D1 level. A lack of on-field discipline, or when a college player 'self-destructive' psychological streak and displays a habit of combusting on & off the field, tends to catch up with them when making the transition from NCAA level to the Pros. This in effect comes into play during the Pro recruitment phase - ie. the draft and the ensuing fee agency period when undrafted rookies are sometimes given a second chance - where a top calibre athlete who is deemed to be 'damaged goods' will often fall down into the later rounds of the draft, where a Pro-team will gamble on the talent pulling through and the individual maturing. In the worse case scenario they won't be picked at all.

 

Maurice Clarret and Marcus Vick - Michael V's younger brother - are prime and recent examples where an indisciplined & combustible type, who at the same time is undeniably talented athletically-wise, will rack up a very respectable college career in the stats column but ultimately have their sins catch up with them, thus having a negative effect on their signing bonus when entering the pros. Colleges recruit the 'pure athlete' and mould them into an impact player, whereas the Pros draft the 'impact player' - or one's potential to become one at the elite level - but they also look at the player's potential, via their pyschological make-up, to become a stable influence in the lockerroom.

 

Clarret was a productive but constant enigma at OS, and his episodes of controversy played a part, and as a result he tumbled into the later rounds where Denver gambled on his raw talent. Clarett got himself into the shit once again, and his pro-career comes to an end.

 

Vick, a couple of years ago before Miami's defense took him apart on his own turf, who for an 'indisciplined type' was at one stage in the mix for the Heisman trophy. He guides VT to the ACC chamionship, but ultimately he stomps on Dumerville - of Louisville - during the VT's following Bowl game and suddenly the Pros don't want a bar of him come draft day.

 

Two examples of what i'm talking about.

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