St. James' Park

[nufcnick]

I really don’t think SJP gets redeveloped, because of FFP we are hamstringing our selfs if we redevelop SJP due to naming rights, I don’t think the owners would go down the road of renaming SJP. A new stadium wouldn’t have that attachment 

[huss9]

13 minutes ago, Thiago said:

Could we not do what Spurs did and just slightly reposition the stadium like a bit of clip art in a word document? 

they had wembley to go play at.

where would we go?

 

 

Edited February 18 by huss9

[Thiago]

1 hour ago, huss9 said:

they had wembley to go play at.

where would we go?

 

 

 

Wembley. 

 

Only fair that the whole country gets to watch the best team in the fucking land

[Izakaya]

Very attached to the St James Park name....

 

BUT

 

Castle Leazes is also a fucking sick name for a ground. 

 

[Johnny]

 

[nufcjb]

We have the wealthiest oweners in the world who are bulding a fucking city literally in a desert. They'll find a way and hire the best engineers money can but to expand and preserve SJP at its current location. They would have thought of this when they started to get interested in buying us and city center stadium, wpild have been a factor in it. Just needs a few heads to work together, and money of course, and we might be on National Geography: SJP, An Engineering Masterpiece soon.

[Ben]

Would we go to SOL for a season or two until the ground is redeveloped, I think the idea of twisting it 90 degrees and moving closer to Barrack Road is probably the best idea

[jack j]

6 minutes ago, Ben said:

Would we go to SOL for a season or two until the ground is redeveloped, I think the idea of twisting it 90 degrees and moving closer to Barrack Road is probably the best idea

😂😂😂😂

[madras]

1 hour ago, nufcjb said:

We have the wealthiest oweners in the world who are bulding a fucking city literally in a desert. They'll find a way and hire the best engineers money can but to expand and preserve SJP at its current location. They would have thought of this when they started to get interested in buying us and city center stadium, wpild have been a factor in it. Just needs a few heads to work together, and money of course, and we might be on National Geography: SJP, An Engineering Masterpiece soon.

We may have the wealthiest owners but even they'll have a limit to what they'll want to spend.

[nufcjb]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

Would we go to SOL for a season or two until the ground is redeveloped, I think the idea of twisting it 90 degrees and moving closer to Barrack Road is probably the best idea

Upgrade Gateshead International to around 30-40k temprarily, so we don't have to move in with the unwashed.

[Karjala]

Could play at Darlington arena (25k capacity) for a season, club could put on free buses down.

[nufcjb]

11 minutes ago, madras said:

We may have the wealthiest owners but even they'll have a limit to what they'll want to spend.

On players? Perhaps due to age, contracts n etc. These people want the best in terms of buildings and infrastructure. Hiring the best engineers or architects that maybe are already on their payroll won't be so much of an issue. Only thing is, which avenue do they wish to go down in order to get the best worth for their money.

[Matty_Lash]

It should be possible to expand SJP to 70k or so even with the constraints of leases terrace.

 

The yellow wall at dortmund is c.25k behind the goal. Why couldn’t we have that behind each goal? We’re then at 50k plus milburn and east stand.

 

Another idea could be to demolish the east stand completely and build it back as the corporate hospitality area with the boxes effectively stacked on top of each other meaning the stand doesn’t have to take such a large footprint. Maybe then put a giant screen on top of it

[Wallsendmag]

3 hours ago, Ben said:

Would we go to SOL for a season or two until the ground is redeveloped, I think the idea of twisting it 90 degrees and moving closer to Barrack Road is probably the best idea

 

This would be hilarious mind! Imagine the only time Sunderland were getting sell out crowds was when Newcastle were playing their home games there 

 

It's just a shame we can just buy their unused upper tier off them and stick it on top of the Gallowgate. Would be nice if it was so straightforward.

 

 

Edited February 19 by Wallsendmag

[NE27]

5 hours ago, Johnny said:

 

 

Which forest are we being moved to like?

 

Does gosforth park actually have the space for a large scale development as obviously the Reuben links keep being mentioned.

[Fantail Breeze]

Feel like I need to see the stadium expansion with escalators and Barnes again  

[RodneyCisse]

Where’s this rumour come from PIF purchased leazes terrace over a year ago?

[nufc4eva]

4 hours ago, jack j said:

😂😂😂😂

Imagine the fume from the unwashed when our fans take over the place every weekend and their fans are converting in numbers, plus Champions League football 🤣

[r0cafella]

15 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

Where’s this rumour come from PIF purchased leazes terrace over a year ago?

Like most things, it’s probably bullshit. 

[Ben]

23 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

Where’s this rumour come from PIF purchased leazes terrace over a year ago?

I read it on twitter so I'm taking it as Righteous Gemstone Gospel 

[Kazzie]

16 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Yes, I Photoshop

 

I can't see this working, did a little messing around with photosho too, I tried to line things up the way they had and it still seems to go right through the terrace.

[bigfella]

20 minutes ago, Kazzie said:

 

I can't see this working, did a little messing around with photosho too, I tried to line things up the way they had and it still seems to go right through the terrace.

 

I wonder if this plan would work with the East Stand side replaced with a stand the height of the present Gallowgate?

The present East Stand only holds about 5,200, so with roughly 9,000 more seats on the East side plus the extra tier (7,000ish) on the Gallowgate end, you're looking at an increase in capacity of maybe 15-16,000.

[midds]

Like a beefed up Bombonera? 

[et tu brute]

People (imo) are kidding themselves if the think that the owners will look to do work on the east stand as the logistics and cost will be horrendous even if they could do something. Can’t see the owners wanting to have a season playing at another ground either. The cost for a few 000s extra seats in the Gallowgate makes it probably not worth extending either (those plans have been discussed going back to the Hall/Shepherd era and it’s been counted as not a cost effective solution).
 

I know people disagree, but seems to me the best option would be to build a new 70-80000 stadium within the city centre limits. This would also open commercial revenue streams via increased concerts. The way St James’ is set, it is a no go for a lot of the big acts due to stage restrictions. 

 

it will be minimum of 2-5 years before any plans are put into place anyway as obviously the training ground/academy will be first port of call. Obviously something will have to be done as tickets will be like gold dust moving forward. Going to be interesting though to see what they do actually decide to do.

 

 

Edited February 19 by et tu brute

[Rosenrot]

56 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

People (imo) are kidding themselves if the think that the owners will look to do work on the east stand as the logistics and cost will be horrendous even if they could do something. Can’t see the owners wanting to have a season playing at another ground either. The cost for a few 000s extra seats in the Gallowgate makes it probably not worth extending either (those plans have been discussed going back to the Hall/Shepherd era and it’s been counted as not a cost effective solution).
 

I know people disagree, but seems to me the best option would be to build a new 70-80000 stadium within the city centre limits. This would also open commercial revenue streams via increased concerts. The way St James’ is set, it is a no go for a lot of the big acts due to stage restrictions. 

 

it will be minimum of 2-5 years before any plans are put into place anyway as obviously the training ground/academy will be first port of call. Obviously something will have to be done as tickets will be like gold dust moving forward. Going to be interesting though to see what they do actually decide to do.

 

 

 

 

Is there such a site within the city centre limits?

 

Perhaps the site of the (soon to be old) arena but that area is earmarked for housing, etc, as far as I understand it, plus it just wouldn’t be the same.