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I was surpsied to see Mourinho let hm go considering he was so widely tipped to go on and become one of Europe's best players. Saying that there was probably a lot of interest from other English clubs interested so by letting him go to Wolfsburg for a relatively small fee it just ensured none of Chelsea's immediate rivals didn't benefit from his arrival.

 

I assume he'll end up at Bayern?

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Klopp's final game at Signal Iduna Park this afternoon managing BVB. Don't like the sound of this comment...

 

'Sky asked Jürgen #Klopp if he could imagine to manage Bayern Munich some day: "Yes, sure." #BVB #FCB'

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In terms of managerial ability perhaps? Handling that level club and what not? Clutching at straws here thinking it's taken somewhat out of context. It would be so :anguish: if he goes there in the near future

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Dortmund are in the Europa no matter what as 7th gets Europa too if Wolfsburg win the Pokal final (if Dortmund win they ofc get it).

 

Absolutely brilliant last day, real shame about Paderborn though.

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From the outside looking in it must be extremely frustrating at times supporting any German club other than Bayern Munich. If a team can win the league, get to the Champions League final and still have its home grown, Dortmund supporting player want to fuck off and play for Bayern Munich then what chance has anyone else got?

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From the outside looking in it must be extremely frustrating at times supporting any German club other than Bayern Munich. If a team can win the league, get to the Champions League final and still have its home grown, Dortmund supporting player want to fuck off and play for Bayern Munich then what chance has anyone else got?

 

Same for Spain, Italy, France, etc. It's pretty damning that the elite league with the most parity is the Premier League, what with its ~FOUR teams who could potentially challenge for the title.

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Klopp apparently wanting to take a 6 month sabbatical according to Bild.

 

Very strange as he said a few weeks ago he didn't need a rest and wanted work asap.

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From the outside looking in it must be extremely frustrating at times supporting any German club other than Bayern Munich. If a team can win the league, get to the Champions League final and still have its home grown, Dortmund supporting player want to fuck off and play for Bayern Munich then what chance has anyone else got?

 

Same for Spain, Italy, France, etc. It's pretty damning that the elite league with the most parity is the Premier League, what with its ~FOUR teams who could potentially challenge for the title.

Not like in Germany though. At least here there's Man City, Chelsea, Man United. Then Arsenal and Liverpool. In Italy there's Juve and AC then Inter and Roma. Spain there's Barca, Real Madrid then Atletico Madrid. In Germany it's Bayern Munich and that's it. The Gotze situation doesn't make any sense from the player's perspective. Just won the league, got to the champions league final, supports Dortmund and came through its academy...moves to Bayern Munich.

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From the outside looking in it must be extremely frustrating at times supporting any German club other than Bayern Munich. If a team can win the league, get to the Champions League final and still have its home grown, Dortmund supporting player want to fuck off and play for Bayern Munich then what chance has anyone else got?

 

Same for Spain, Italy, France, etc. It's pretty damning that the elite league with the most parity is the Premier League, what with its ~FOUR teams who could potentially challenge for the title.

Not like in Germany though. At least here there's Man City, Chelsea, Man United. Then Arsenal and Liverpool. In Italy there's Juve and AC then Inter and Roma. Spain there's Barca, Real Madrid then Atletico Madrid. In Germany it's Bayern Munich and that's it. The Gotze situation doesn't make any sense from the player's perspective. Just won the league, got to the champions league final, supports Dortmund and came through its academy...moves to Bayern Munich.

 

Gotze and his family are originally from Bavaria so it makes sense from that perspective.

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Augsburg’s qualification for the Europa League – a very German fairytale

 

FC Augsburg supporters celebrated the unlikeliest Bundesliga success story after watching their side finish fifth to secure a place in next season’s Europa League

 

It can’t have been easy counting, especially after 2,900 litres of free beer had been dispensed to the crowd. Estimates in the end ranged from 4,000-7,000 attendees, but it was impossible to put a number on the delirious joy with which the FC Augsburg supporters and the team celebrated, at the city’s central square, the unlikeliest Bundesliga success story in many years.

 

Little FCA, run on a budget of around €20m, stuffed with journeymen, sandwiched right in the middle between Stuttgart and Bayern, have qualified for the Europa League in their fourth season in the top flight – in fifth place, ahead of the Champions League regulars Dortmund and Schalke, courtesy of a 3-1 win at Borussia Mönchengladbach on the final day of the season. “In Europe, nobody know us,” the slogan on the team’s T-shirts proudly declared, in slightly more colourful language in the German original. “This is the best team Augsburg have had in 100 years,” the president Klaus Hofmann declared, quite rightly.

 

The city’s mayor had said that he would let the team back on to the municipality balcony for a second time after their promotion in 2010 if they qualified for Europe but probably never dreamt that he would have to keep his promise. Every single fan interviewed by local radio, TV and newspapers expressed incredulity. They had braced themselves for another relegation battle this season, not the draw for the group stage of Uefa’s second competition.

 

It’s a frankly stupendous achievement, born out of a bit of good fortune. Sascha Mölders scored with his backside to secure a 3-2 win at Fortuna Düsseldorf – the beginning of a miraculous fightback after the first 17 games of the 2012-13 season had left them 17th place with only nine points, and the veteran Alex Manninger later that year saved a penalty from Fürth’s Edgar Prib in the last game of the campaign at the second time of asking, to help his side to the 3-1 win that kept them up. The referee had ruled out Prib’s first successful attempt.

 

The club’s persistence with the coach Markus Weinzierl two years ago, despite his disastrous start to life at the top level – he had only trained Jahn Regensburg in the third division before – wasn’t just good luck, however, but a far-sighted masterstroke. In his second season, the former Bayern Munich player took Augsburg to eighth place. They lost their one true outstanding player, the Germany international André Hahn, to Borussia Mönchengladbach but that didn’t stop them outpacing the two Ruhr clubs, as well as all of the other traditional Europa League hopefuls this season. “We are over the moon that we have managed to put the icing on the cake for the whole season with a fantastic performance,” said Weinzierl.

 

Statistically, Augsburg’s success is quite hard to explain. None of their numbers truly stand out. They have scored 43 goals and conceded 43. They have won 15 games, drawn four and lost 15 games. Their passing numbers are in line with the league average, along with their won tackles and running distance. They have won many tight games but you can’t detect heightened levels of efficiency in front of goal. Nearly seven shots per goal scored is an unremarkable figure. The only number pointing at their special durability is 288 opposition shots at their goal. Only Bayern (177), Leverkusen (194), Dortmund (206), and Wolfsburg (243) have awarded opponents fewer chances to score. Weinzierl has made the maximum of very little.

 

You sense that the players themselves aren’t quite sure how their sensational season has come about. “Augsburg in fifth place – it’s sheer madness,” said Pierre Hojbjerg, the midfield-loanee from Bayern. Halil Altintop spoke of the special family atmosphere and togetherness at the club, and it’s true; their dressing room is free of egos, a prerequisite for the manager’s blue collar style of pressing hard in midfield. But a huge part of what’s happened in the SGL-Arena, a snug 30,000-seat stadium that still has to make do without a facade after its opening next to the motorway in 2009 – the club have preferred to put the €3m into the team instead – cannot be explained rationally, beyond the basic notion that Augsburg’s competence has been enough to make them extraordinary in a season where most of the big guns have misfired to varying degrees. It’s a very German fairytale, this: the story of a job simply well done.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/may/25/augsburg-bundesliga-europa-league

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From the outside looking in it must be extremely frustrating at times supporting any German club other than Bayern Munich. If a team can win the league, get to the Champions League final and still have its home grown, Dortmund supporting player want to fuck off and play for Bayern Munich then what chance has anyone else got?

 

Same for Spain, Italy, France, etc. It's pretty damning that the elite league with the most parity is the Premier League, what with its ~FOUR teams who could potentially challenge for the title.

Not like in Germany though. At least here there's Man City, Chelsea, Man United. Then Arsenal and Liverpool. In Italy there's Juve and AC then Inter and Roma. Spain there's Barca, Real Madrid then Atletico Madrid. In Germany it's Bayern Munich and that's it. The Gotze situation doesn't make any sense from the player's perspective. Just won the league, got to the champions league final, supports Dortmund and came through its academy...moves to Bayern Munich.

 

Gotze and his family are originally from Bavaria so it makes sense from that perspective.

 

:thup: I didn't know that.

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Title change for the new season? :aww:

 

Massive blow for Leverkusen with Charles Aranguiz being ruled out until the new year, hasn't even played a game for them yet. Was really looking forward to seeing how he did there, was immense for Chile in the World Cup last year.

 

De Bruyne seemingly leaving Wolfsburg just days after he said he was definitely staying. Will be interesting to see who they bring in to replace him, think they might go for Draxler from Schalke or maybe even Gotze, not sure if Schalke or Bayern will fancy selling to a divisional rival though. If they don't replace De Bruyne I think they'll struggle to challenge for the top 3.

 

Dortmund seemed to be transformed under Tuchel after falling into a rut last season under Klopp. Another win for them tonight (came back from 3-0 down) and they're looking rejuvanated, still think they do need to bring in 1 or 2 more faces before the transfer window closes, new striker and CB is probably the priority.

 

Really hope someone challenges Bayern a bit more this season, although they looked fantastic on Friday night. Douglas Costa's assist...so good.

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Reckon it'll be really good, far more excited about it than the Premiership. Feel very optimistic about Tuchel. Really hope they keep Aubameyang but have a feeling he'll be snatched in January.

 

Darmstadt look really positive for a newly promoted side. Think they'll do well.

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