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Legacy of Glenn Roeder.


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Many problems with a manager go away as soon as he departs.

 

However, all managers leave a long term legacy that will cause problems for the next guy.

 

For instance, Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength. When Bernard signed, Roeder had him on the weights. Owen, Bramble, Taylor, Ameobi, Pattison and N'Zogbia have clearly been on this regime as well, and it is a worry that players will have lost some of the speed and agility that was part and parcel of their game, as Roeder unsuccessfully tried to mould the team into a stronger unit.

 

What else has Roeder left behind that we wont be able to fix overnight?

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Many problems with a manager go away as soon as he departs.

 

However, all managers leave a long term legacy that will cause problems for the next guy.

 

For instance, Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength. When Bernard signed, Roeder had him on the weights. Owen, Bramble, Taylor, Ameobi, Pattison and N'Zogbia have clearly been on this regime as well, and it is a worry that players will have lost some of the speed and agility that was part and parcel of their game, as Roeder unsuccessfully tried to mould the team into a stronger unit.

 

What else has Roeder left behind that we wont be able to fix overnight?

 

Only person on this board who would ever come out with 'Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength'

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Roeder basically wanted 11 big strong no skill footballers, His team was usually of players who either have strength or pace, Technique was something he felt was not needed, and aside from Milner,Solano and Emre the rest of our players are all physical players who don't even know the basics of football like when to pass and when to hold the ball

 

He ruined Luque, N'Zogbia for us and i guess both will  be off in the summer, Luque never really showed anything in Newcastle mainly becaues he spent most of his time either injured or on the bench, or just out of the squad

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Many problems with a manager go away as soon as he departs.

 

However, all managers leave a long term legacy that will cause problems for the next guy.

 

For instance, Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength. When Bernard signed, Roeder had him on the weights. Owen, Bramble, Taylor, Ameobi, Pattison and N'Zogbia have clearly been on this regime as well, and it is a worry that players will have lost some of the speed and agility that was part and parcel of their game, as Roeder unsuccessfully tried to mould the team into a stronger unit.

 

What else has Roeder left behind that we wont be able to fix overnight?

 

Only person on this board who would ever come out with 'Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength'

 

Maybe because I'm insightful.

 

He's been banging on about upper body strength all year:

 

"Bernard isn't heavy enough"

 

"We've got Michael working on the weights."

 

"Shola's spent a lot of time in the weights room, so should come back even stronger"

 

"Bramble's injury allows us to givehim time on the weights"

 

 

Have a look at all our players 12 months ago. Now compare it to today - they'll be heavier, and have larger frames.

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Many problems with a manager go away as soon as he departs.

 

However, all managers leave a long term legacy that will cause problems for the next guy.

 

For instance, Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength. When Bernard signed, Roeder had him on the weights. Owen, Bramble, Taylor, Ameobi, Pattison and N'Zogbia have clearly been on this regime as well, and it is a worry that players will have lost some of the speed and agility that was part and parcel of their game, as Roeder unsuccessfully tried to mould the team into a stronger unit.

 

What else has Roeder left behind that we wont be able to fix overnight?

 

Only person on this board who would ever come out with 'Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength'

 

Maybe because I'm insightful.

 

He's been banging on about upper body strength all year:

 

"Bernard isn't heavy enough"

 

"We've got Michael working on the weights."

 

"Shola's spent a lot of time in the weights room, so should come back even stronger"

 

"Bramble's injury allows us to givehim time on the weights"

 

 

Have a look at all our players 12 months ago. Now compare it to today - they'll be heavier, and have larger frames.

 

Insightful? :D

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He's been banging on about upper body strength all year:

 

"Bernard isn't heavy enough"

 

"We've got Michael working on the weights."

 

"Shola's spent a lot of time in the weights room, so should come back even stronger"

 

"Bramble's injury allows us to givehim time on the weights"

 

 

Have a look at all our players 12 months ago. Now compare it to today - they'll be heavier, and have larger frames.

 

Overcompensating. Just look at Roeder's little girly arms. :hom:

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his legacy is the same legacy which he inherited from Souness. he failed to address the important issues, which were clear to everybody (center backs, full backs, creative attacker) The only thing we should be grateful to him for is bringing Martins, although i'm sure he preferred Kuyt at the time. He should've tried Luque and N'Zogbia instead of buying Damien 'never be the same' Duff, who we're stuck with now..

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What legacy do you expect from shit manager?

What legacy will sir Alex leave after he is retired?

What legacy SBR left at Newcastle United?

Basically it works like this:

shit manager=shit legacy

good manager=good legacy

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Saving us from relegation last season is Roeder's legacy.

 

Looking at the bigger picture, I just feel the last 3 seasons have been a waste. Sir Bob should have been able to hand over a good squad to the next manager, but the succession was bungled. I can't help but think that Freddie's dream of Shearer taking over as a manager in the near future interfered with his thinking, and we ended up with two stop-gap, second-choice managers in weak positions rather than someone of the standing of Allardyce who could really take charge and shape things.

 

Let's hope it's all over now.

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Many problems with a manager go away as soon as he departs.

 

However, all managers leave a long term legacy that will cause problems for the next guy.

 

For instance, Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength. When Bernard signed, Roeder had him on the weights. Owen, Bramble, Taylor, Ameobi, Pattison and N'Zogbia have clearly been on this regime as well, and it is a worry that players will have lost some of the speed and agility that was part and parcel of their game, as Roeder unsuccessfully tried to mould the team into a stronger unit.

 

What else has Roeder left behind that we wont be able to fix overnight?

 

Only person on this board who would ever come out with 'Roeder has been obsessed with upper body strength'

 

Maybe because I'm insightful.

 

He's been banging on about upper body strength all year:

 

"Bernard isn't heavy enough"

 

"We've got Michael working on the weights."

 

"Shola's spent a lot of time in the weights room, so should come back even stronger"

 

"Bramble's injury allows us to givehim time on the weights"

 

 

Have a look at all our players 12 months ago. Now compare it to today - they'll be heavier, and have larger frames.

 

And the problem with that is?

 

Owen has already said he's faster now than he was before.

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No European football will be of great help to Allardyce, one less distraction. That initself could be some kind of legacy...

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The academy set up is certainly a whole lot healthier, who ever steps into the hotseat certainly has alot of work to do, but I dont think Roeder has done much damage to the club.

 

In fairness he did alot of repair work from the state Souness got us in.

 

The clubs in the right state for the new man to do whatever he likes with it really. For Big Sam its perfect for the taking, I just hope if its him he can bring the coaching staff we need.

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