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What load of entitled bleeding heart gloryhunting wankers there are on this forum. At what point are you lot Newcastle supporters rather then Ashley haters? You've morphed into the latter but still think somehow you're part of the former.

'I haven't been since 1972 / 1986 / 1993, 2012 etc, I prefer rugby, going to Ald, watching paint dry, non-League, I can't bear to watch at all.

Why are you lot still actually on a forum which is supposed to be about supporting Newcastle? You hate everything about it. When did there become box ticking criteria for supporting a club? I'm not going back until the club looks like this, the owner looks like this, the manager looks like this etc etc, trying to out do each other on who can be the most hurt, the least caring like a load of petulant kids. What a load of shite.

The less people like you lot at the match the better. Nee wonder fans of other clubs think we're arseholes.

Fuck the lot of you.

I’d love it if he went bankrupt, if SD went bust, if his club got to the FA Cup Final and Man City mashed them 6-0.

 

I’d love it if he was the owner of a mid-table perennial Championship side playing in a half empty stadium.

 

I’d love for all this people who gave him money to go through all that shit because they don’t deserve better, the old saying you get what you pay for should be that name on the badge.

 

Have some fucking pride, some self respect, some fucking back bone for your club and city, for yourself even.

 

Or be Mike’s bitch.

 

Ah man, one man has turned me against the club, the team, the fans and football itself where there’s not much left to give that’s not pure hatred for it/them all!

What an absolute pathetic arsehole you are. Do you talk like this in public or just on messageboards? Do you talk like this to your mates? Do you have any?

And you are another who hasn't a clue about mental illness.

 

Seriously fella, did you not read my initial post and the one to LV?

 

To say someone likes being addicted to something is just utter madness.

 

No it's not mate. To think all addicts are somehow 'fighting an internal battle against demons' is madness and to be frank, utter crap. A myth. Some are but he's not one of them.

 

I know you said you've had experience of such addiction but I am struggling with some of what you've said. Of course there are different levels of addiction, but addiction is a psychological and physical inability to stop consuming drink (or drugs in other cases etc.). So yes, if you are an addict, you are fighting those psychological demons, addiction and misuse are different.

What I'm saying mate, is sometimes there is no 'fighting'. It's fully possible to be an alcoholic and not be in constant turmoil about it.

And you are another who hasn't a clue about mental illness.

 

He has a post history proving he hasn’t a clue about many things tbh

Seriously pal? Christ. Go back to bed.

As someone who is watching this unfold in my own family with my brother and his wife, you still have sympathy and love for them but you get worn down. You start focusing on the kids and the loved ones who are getting hurt around them, rightly or wrongly.

 

It does start to become 'i can do no more' not because you don't love them, it's because it starts to affect your own health and well being but when you can see your own Mum and my Brothers Mum-In-Law (in our case) starting to suffer pain and unbearable stress, it starts to kill the love you have for them, but it's far more complicated than trying to explain it in a few words on here, and every situation is different.

 

All i know is i wouldn't wish it on anyone, ever.

I'm so sorry to hear this as well mate., My heart absolutely goes out to you.

I grew in in Benwell and Scotswood in the 70's and 80's and I'm sure there are people on here who have similar backgrounds. Chuck in an alcoholic father and to say it was tough was an understatement so I have first hand grade A experience of dealing with people like him.

 

In any other walk of life, this bloke would be branded a disgrace but because he's 'good 'ole lovable Gazza' who used to be a canny footballer 30 years ago, this somehow warrants him an endless bottomless bucket of sympathy. He has had more chances, more rehab, more cash spent on him than he deserves.

 

As mentioned by one or two others, these people are not the personalities you think they are. They are selfish and destructive. He's been clean many times and he doesn't like it. He likes being pissed and likes being an alcoholic.

 

I you think he needs saving again I'm sorry but you are wrong.

 

There’s a huge difference in wanting to stop yourself and being able to stop yourself. If you think he ‘chooses’ this then you’re wrong, first hand experience or not.

 

My first hand experience also includes social workers, addiction specialists, domestic violence experts and other professionals in this field. You mistakenly think he has no personal responsibility or choice. With all due respect mate, you are 100% wrong. 

I’m absolutely not saying he has no personal responsibility but I am saying despite that he is unable to stop and is not choosing this on a deep level. I’m not trying to minimise your personal experience in any way I promise. But the guy absolutely does not choose this.

Genuinely mate, I'm not saying my experience trumps all but why is mine regarded as such a left field view? What is it about Paul Gascoigne over the last 30 years that somehow says he is in a constant battle to stop being who is is?

And you are another who hasn't a clue about mental illness.

 

Seriously fella, did you not read my initial post and the one to LV?

 

I lost my Dad to alcoholism when I was eighteen. He was forty four.

 

To say somebody likes being an alcoholic is ridiculous. It's like saying someone 'likes' having cancer. It's nonsensical.

I'm sorry to hear that mate and it must have been terrible. Not all addicts are the same though. And that's what people think. If that was the case, not one of them would ever beat it.

And you are another who hasn't a clue about mental illness.

 

Seriously fella, did you not read my initial post and the one to LV?

 

To say someone likes being addicted to something is just utter madness.

No it's not mate. To think all addicts are somehow 'fighting an internal battle against demons' is madness and to be frank, utter crap. A myth. Some are but he's not one of them.

And you are another who hasn't a clue about mental illness.

Seriously fella, did you not read my initial post and the one to LV?

"Likes being an alcoholic"

 

Yes mate. And?

I grew in in Benwell and Scotswood in the 70's and 80's and I'm sure there are people on here who have similar backgrounds. Chuck in an alcoholic father and to say it was tough was an understatement so I have first hand grade A experience of dealing with people like him.

 

In any other walk of life, this bloke would be branded a disgrace but because he's 'good 'ole lovable Gazza' who used to be a canny footballer 30 years ago, this somehow warrants him an endless bottomless bucket of sympathy. He has had more chances, more rehab, more cash spent on him than he deserves.

 

As mentioned by one or two others, these people are not the personalities you think they are. They are selfish and destructive. He's been clean many times and he doesn't like it. He likes being pissed and likes being an alcoholic.

 

I you think he needs saving again I'm sorry but you are wrong.

 

There’s a huge difference in wanting to stop yourself and being able to stop yourself. If you think he ‘chooses’ this then you’re wrong, first hand experience or not.

My first hand experience also includes social workers, addiction specialists, domestic violence experts and other professionals in this field. You mistakenly think he has no personal responsibility or choice. With all due respect mate, you are 100% wrong. 

I grew in in Benwell and Scotswood in the 70's and 80's and I'm sure there are people on here who have similar backgrounds. Chuck in an alcoholic father and to say it was tough was an understatement so I have first hand grade A experience of dealing with people like him.

In any other walk of life, this bloke would be branded a disgrace but because he's 'good 'ole lovable Gazza' who used to be a canny footballer 30 years ago, this somehow warrants him an endless bottomless bucket of sympathy. He has had more chances, more rehab, more cash spent on him than he deserves.

As mentioned by one or two others, these people are not the personalities you think they are. They are selfish and destructive. He's been clean many times and he doesn't like it. He likes being pissed and likes being an alcoholic.

I you think he needs saving again I'm sorry but you are wrong.

What I find so sad is I’ve witnessed NUFC fans more offended by rival fans in the home end celebrating or cheering their own team on or more offended when a fellow Toon fan doesn’t sing along, take his shoes off or stays behind after the 90 minutes is up more than being offended when someone is using racist language or displaying racist behaviour. One act seemingly too offensive to resit kicking of over than the other. I’ve seen fans complain to stewards about swearing or people smoking and doing fuck all about any racist shit.

 

Anyone who took offence against a Liverpool fan whether they were celebrating, provoking someone or abusive and threatening themselves, by assaulting them are scum and deserve banned for life and prosecuted.

 

And anyone who thinks it’s fair game to dish out violence or abuse to a rival fan celebrating and cheering on their team as deserving such treatment or have only themselves to blame, you are scum too.

 

Football doesn’t give anyone the right to behave like dickheads or consider that the law and common decency doesn’t apply to those attending a football match.

Honestly, what a an absolute load of Daily Mail sanctimonious shite.  Is it right? No of course not. Should we have all evolved where we can sit back like good citizens and 'let the authorities deal with in the appropriate way?' Probably. But that's not the way it is and those Liverpool fans who took their chances in the home end, they fucking knew it's the way it is as well. if I sat in the Kop or in the Stretford End or with mackems in their own end, then I know how this works and would behave appropriately. Gan on like arseholes? Sorry but I hope every one of them got a clip.

Superb to a man. Our fans have also been brilliant as they always are. Non stop all night.

I forgot they were playing today. Assumed it was a 3pm Saturday and decided I wasn’t going to bother watching it like last week.

 

My weekend was all the better for it to be honest. It’s hard to keep justifying something that brings almost zero positivity or reward for decades of blind loyalty you give to it.

 

If this was any other business, people would stop being customers.

 

They know they have you by the bollocks because it’s a one horse town.

Well don't justify it then and don't bother any more full stop. Liverpool are playing Chelsea on Sunday. Fill yer boots. Plenty of positivity there for you. Get yerself away.

Could argue we should have got in at halftime leading but when LeJeune went off and Benteke come on, we got done tactically. They switched it round, we got sucked in and they've got the players who can break. Not sure why it took them so long and obvious but worked a treat. They had another couple of breaks before that where they should have done better so it was coming. Benteke should have really scored and I think Dummett had a toe end interception where it would have been one on one with our keeper. For all the stats will say we did ok in that half, did we really have a proper chance? Loads of proverbial huffing and puffing but nowt what you could say was a proper chance.

Reminded me of the Wolves game at home a bit. Seemed to unnecessarily play into what they are good at.

Shelvey was tripe as well.

I know some born and bred Geordies who support Liverpool and they are planning to get tickets in the home end for our game. Latched on to Liverpool when they were winning  everything back then or the 'culture' of supporting Liverpool. Pure horrible gloryhunting cunts of the highest order. One of them used to take great pleasure in telling me how shite 'yous' are (that's the way they speak). I despise every fucking one of them.

Man City could be argued are nouveau riche but their fans aren't, I've met quite a few over the years and not one fell into the category above. If they keep winning everything then this may change in a generation or so and we might see Geordies who support them. For the moment, that's not the case. To a man, they have all been decent knowledgeable fans who stuck by their club when they were shite.

I don't get the money thing either. I'ts not like Liverpool have got 11 scousers who they bought from the pound shop.

Hopefully the game at St James will mean nothing to us, staying up wise, but I will be devastated if Liverpool win the title at our place. Having to put up with them cunts on the Monday will be horrific.

Fuck Liverpool and fuck their fans. Many City everyday for me.

Sorry if this is not a popular opinion but i was at the game and from where I was standing, I thought we were shite. The only reason it wasn't 4 or 5 was completely down to Spurs and sweet fa to do with us.

Realistically, they should have been 3 nowt up at half time and if Perez had missed that header in the same way Moura did, we'd be round his house burning him at the stake. I was as gutted as anyone having got to 80 odd minutes without them scoring and even more sickening that is was a mistake but that is the risk you take if you say to a team like that 'here, have the ball, see if you can score'. They should have been well out of site before then and some of that goalmouth scrambling in the second half resembled the kind of comical stuff you'd expect to see if Hartlepool were playing in the Champion League. Awful.

We created one reasonable chance in the whole  match so maybe I can say '1' for us but christ, the scoreline flattered us completely and this could have been an absolute battering.

I'm not trying to put a dampener on things as overall its been a canny week and maybe it's because they took so long to score and but I'm genuinely bewildered at how some people think we deserved a point.

Cardiff win, please.

f*** this club.

 

This. Would love a big sol bamba header 88th minute winner in front of the sheep in the gallowgate. It would be the first spoon of medicine this toxic club needs

 

I just thought there imagine been at the match and we scored a late winner, I fail to grasp how anyone could celebrate that and actually be happy knowing it means f all other than to the parasite.

Do you talk like that to actual real people or just to a screen? What an absolute utter fucking cock end you are.

When this is over, can someone start a thread entitled 'Gloryhunting C*nts' or something similar where we can vent our absolute disdain for Geordies who support these fuckers. I've been at work this morning and there's two in my office.  Saying things like 'we' and meaning Liverpool. I have never been so close to braying someone for a long time but these c*nts boil my piss more than most.

Christ, great goal. How are we winning this match  :yikes:

This sounds like an absolute shitfest. Even by our standards.

 

As bad as it gets it's never as bad as the match thread suggests.

Believe me mate, it is.

Just got in from the game. From where I was siting it looked like he should have taken it in the corner before the break for the goal but lost possession. Did I see it right?

Yes and no from me. People were screaming and shouting about game management and taking it in the corner as i was leaving the ground but he had a chance to score or play someone in and win us the game and there's no better way to waste time and win the game than actually scoring a goal.

Personally thought that in the context of the game both teams were going all out to win it late on and i can't fault him for it. He could have took it the corner and lost possession anyway,

Aye, one of them was probably me and sorry mate but I disagree. Wolves had nowt all game except on the break and the chances they had all came from that kind of scenario. One's each in the 94th minute down to 10 men and I'd put my house on it that Shearer would have taken it to the corner.

Just got in from the game. From where I was siting it looked like he should have taken it in the corner before the break for the goal but lost possession. Did I see it right?

Reckon lots of people will disagree with this (judging by the previous posts) but I actually think today was a fairly creditable performance. I'm not trying to say we were fantastic but we deserved something from the game. I think if that had been the first game of the season we'd all be annoyed at the result but hopeful for the coming weeks - but it's not and instead we are bottom of the league without a win in 9 so it feels awful.

 

Starting with our defensive performance, I think we were pretty solid. The goal we conceded was from a corner that shouldn't have been given and went in via a big deflection. Apart from that (if I remember correctly) Brighton's only other big chances all came on the breakaway or through sloppy passing as we were chasing the game in the last quarter.

 

On the attacking side Perez, Ritchie and Shelvey (x2) all forced Ryan into good saves. Kenedy shot just over the bar and Muto was unlucky to head over with the ball coming at him fast on the rebound. On another day with a bit more luck in front of goal then one of those chances could have easily gone in. Could we have done more in attack? Definitely and there is big room for improvement, but we weren't hideous.

 

The real problem in attack was the limitations of our wider squad. Brighton played very narrow and let us have space out wide, safe in the knowledge that the targets our wingers and full backs were trying to pick out in the box were primarily Muto and Perez (with support from Ritchie, Kenedy, Shelvey depending on who was putting the ball in) and that our only option to change it was Joselu. And with the quality of the deliveries also falling short in the large part our bench had no particularly appealing options - none of Atsu, Murphy or Manquillo are likely to provide better quality into the box.

 

The worry remains chronic under investment in the squad which is sabotaging the efforts of a world class manager and players who worked hard today. It's going to be another long season at the bottom end of the table but if we put in performances like we did today week in week out then I think we'll be alright in the long run. If the deflection on Shelvey's free kick sends it in and the Kayal deflection flies into Dubravka's hands, we'd be patting ourselves on the back tonight for another solid, Rafa-like home win.

Perfect assessment mate.