Mills and Boon

2 hours ago, TRon said:

 

I know he's a cunt, but that was the period when the international super rich moved into English football and blew the locals out of the water. Not that Ashley was ever interested in spending his way to success, but he couldn't compete with the Mansours or the Abramoviches even if he wanted to.

What about Spurs? We were above them in the league, had more commercial revenue than them, a better squad and stadium when he bought us. Could the fat cunt not have matched their pace over his tenure? Or even try to?

Got a lot of time for Reid. Hates the fucking Tories 

19 minutes ago, George Bailey said:

I would say they are a club that wins things. Something we have consistently failed to do for decades.

For some reason clubs like Man Utd just seem to have a winning mentality in their dna. Built over years with different squads and different managers.

That puts them in a strong position to constantly revamp, invest and keep on winning things. So whether it’s unpalatable or not, for me they aren’t in decline but have had some dormant seasons - but dormant seasons in which they have lifted multiple trophies! 
Something we can still only dream of…sadly. 

 

Chelsea developed that winning knack for a period and of course so have Man City, we can but just need to flipping win anything to get us started. That’s why I am gutted at not getting European football next season- I think we would have had an excellent chance of winning that competition.

 

 

 

 

The fuck? It's not a winning "knack" it's massive amounts of investment into the squad that other clubs can't compete with.

We're trying to catch up but FFP is a constant handbrake on us

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I would say about 5-7 years.

 

Or when the manager has a squad that’s good enough to realistically win something. 

 

 

 

Aye. When the squad is of a level that winning something is expected, there's no obvious improvement to be made and he still can't deliver a trophy, it's time to move on and let someone else have a crack

8 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

Actually, not once anywhere have I said he should have already delivered us a trophy, I'm asking the question of how many seasons does he get winning 0 trophies before we look elsewhere for someone who can? I've already said he deserves to continue.

 

The bloke has been great for us but needs to deliver silverware at some point, would imagine he would admit the same thing himself.

I'm happy just to see improvement on and off the pitch. This season has been blighted by injuries so the on the pitch side of things has suffered. But we've still managed to scrape a pretty good season out of it, and next season we'll improve again with fewer games to play.

The more we push on the better our chances of silverware are. If it gets to the point where it looks like Howe can't improve us any further, then it's time to look into another manager, but that's not the case for me.

Silverware is the aim, but I'll take overall improvement to the club as a whole over that at the moment. Ten Hag's just won two pots in two years, but Man U look to be heading backwards under him. Would you swap Howe for him? I wouldn't 

9 minutes ago, Ginola14 said:

I wonder if Villa fans are saying similar about Emery 

 

did nowt in the domestic cups probably won't get a better chance at a trophy than they had in this season's ECL

There's always a few in every fanbase. Some of ours didn't want Howe at the start and have been looking for ammo to shout Howe Out ever since

I honestly can't imagine knowing who their players are, what their contract details are or what percentage of revenue is spent on the overall wage bill.

Totally obsessed, this duck egg doesn't support sunlun, they're Anti-Newcastle fans 

Why did Howe intentionally injure Miley? Is he stupid?

43 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

You can tell we're emotionally damaged and insecure as a fanbase like. There was nothing unusual in what he said.

It's embarrassing how defeatist and mentally weak a good chunk of the fanbase is. He's said he's disappointed with the way the season is panning out, which everyone is feeling. That's it.

People are reacting to it like a panic stricken Chicken Little, acting like it's the end of the world. Unbelievable.

The bloke above me is talking about him in the past tense 

13 minutes ago, TRC said:

Source?

Weird doom mongers on Twitter, I'd bet my house on it

6 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

For comparison, this is before Everton and with Pope.

 

If you extend it through the Forest game, the midpoint of the season, we were 6th in xGA and 1st in xG. 

The Forest game was when Botman came back and we've not looked right since. Not putting all the blame on him mind but his return and struggle for form has coincided with the midfield being overrun and Burn's tough spell.

I've got faith we'll sort it out and finish strong

Aye he's good the Swiss Ramble fella, which makes me doubt the other sources, but there's a load of them and they're not that old either 

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Where are you getting 9th from?

We have the 7th highest wage bill in the league

 

I got it from here

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/premier-league-wage-bill-ranking-2023-24-man-utd-liverpool-arsenal

Is it bullshit?

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

8th

4th

4th (CL winners?)

2nd

1st

 

Probably gave Klopp the credit to get away with 1 bad season (which he deserves criticism for)

 

If people think Howe's 4th finish buys him the credit to finish 9th the next season, that's fair enough.

 

We're the ninth highest payers in terms of salary and league position usually has a strong correlation with that. We overachieved last season, ninth place should be our expectation (not aim) so with that and the injuries, suspensions, extra games all taken into consideration nobody should be disappointed if we finish top half as we'd be par for the course despite those adversities.

But we're all human so inevitably there'll still be disappointment, which is fair enough. There's a lot of knee jerk overreaction going around though, which isn't great

6 minutes ago, greenhill said:

Because we make decisions based on what he is doing now, not his CV.

 

Since that Everton game we had been poor for some time, and things are not fixed yet.

 

And FYI, Bruce got 12 points from his last 12 league games in charge.

Maybe we were too hasty

11 minutes ago, greenhill said:

I don't suggest Howe is a bad manager nor we should sack him now, he is probably a much better manager than Bruce but our current results is worse than that under Bruce is also a fact. I hope and I still have some faith that he could turn things around. But if that doesn't happen before the end of this season, we have to reflect why we were that bad. We still have 12 more league games to play, if our performance and results remain that bad over 24 games it's hard to argue it's over 'a curated set of fixtures'.

Well when you've decided to stop at 12 games it is curated. Why not include the whole season? Or Howe's full record as you did for Bruce?

Because it then becomes obvious that Howe is better and you don't want to say that for some reason.

What's the average points per game of Bruce's last 12 games in charge out of interest?

5 minutes ago, greenhill said:

When everyone think that Bruce had done an awful job and someone is doing worse than Bruce, there must be something wrong.

Worse than Bruce over a curated set of fixtures chosen to make Howe look as bad as possible

3 hours ago, TeddySAFC said:

His point stands? 

 

He said fans were fawning after him after he won three games on the spin, He didn't even manage to win back to back games man never mind three, He was absolutely garbage.

Absolutely dog shit appointment which everyone except whoever made the decision knew was a disaster in progress and only going to get worse

1 hour ago, madras said:

Some turn up in the ground with a "I've paid my money so I can say what I want" attitude likes it's a purge zone, where normals rules don't apply.

 

In and round the ground on Saturday was the first time there was a definite feeling of entitlement from a good few, enough to feel it. It made me think of a Man City fan we met a few years back who said things had changed, the atmosphere, and he was hoping they'd wil the title (their first Premier title)that season so he could fuck off with his Macclesfield ticket and his son would then be old enough to go on his own.

It's always been there for me, just bubbling under, waiting for an opportunity to chuck the toys out the pram. People were whinging about Sir Bobby Robson back in the day. Grumbling about Rafa's style of football while he was doing his best with what he had as Mike Ashley was tying one arm behind his back.

Entitled wankers are nothing new to our fanbase. I don't understand the mentality. Like they get off on being negative and are almost disappointed when their chance at a right good moan is snatched away by a pesky Barnes equalizer.

I wish these cunts would piss off and watch it on the TV instead of bringing the atmosphere down by not getting behind the lads through the difficult times as well as the good 

2 hours ago, RS said:

Garbage lead singer Shirley Manson once shit in a bowl of cornflakes and served it to her boyfriend after an argument. 

That's crossing the line into the wrong side of dirty to me like

Easily the worst keeper I've seen for us. And I saw Super Duper Hooper.

Glad he's turned it around and wish him all the best. Hopefully he throws one in the net against us

15 hours ago, bigfella said:

 

We should have one now. 

And it should be sponsored to the hilt.

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59 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I doubt anyone would be happy to see Trippier leave.  Comfortably the best FB I’ve seen in B&W.  But we’re going to see a lot of squad recycling in the coming years - lots of sales of players we might not sell ourselves.  I’m perfectly happy to trust Howe and the board on those decisions at present - this isn’t Ashley-era Newcastle United.

 

If Trippier stays, great.  If he goes, I’ll happily back the current club management on that call. 

The main worry I have isn't replacing him as a RB, because I think Tino will do a grand job. It's his leadership qualities and experience we'll miss. Hopefully that'll be addressed by some incoming recruits

10 hours ago, Infatuation Junkie said:

Let’s face facts here. We are fucked. Proper fucked. We will sit 3/4 up the table for eternity

Not at all. We've increased revenue by 40% in each of the last two years. That's absolutely massive growth, we'll catch up with the heavy hitters sooner rather than later 

3 minutes ago, High Five o said:

If we continue to spend as previous years, we might be close. We are amortizing previous spend who will add up as well. Let’s wait and see how it turn out.

I imagine we'll continue to work to the maximum FFP allows while increasing our income via commercial deals so we're able to spend more in the future