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  1. One thing we lack the majority of the time, is someone with the balls and/or ability to find advanced players and actually pass it to feet.  I noticed quite regularly Merino would work a bit of an opening and play a decent 10-15 yard pass along the deck to someone in front of him.  Shelvey was doing it as well, once he came on. 

     

    Not sure if it was a case of them sitting deep, or the subs impacting the game and improving the options?  Probably a combination of both.  But it is decent to see, as we usually have Shelvey sat deep launching deep passes out wide and that pretty much sums up our attacking options. 

     

    Merino will play a huge part in our season.  I don't think it is OTT to say he will be a big factor in whether we stay up comfortably or scrap around at the bottom in yet another relegation fight. 

     

    What i love about him the most is that he actually can play a simple pass 10-20 meters straight up to a forward. Its one of the reasons mitro seems really good this days, he can hold the ball up well when he get the ball at his feet, and is a good layoff point*.

    2 of our best plays at the end came from a 3 man combo when playing it short. (involving mitro and merino)

    Shelvey have that ability as well, but he needs a lot of space to pick out that golden pass (like the one to yedlin at the end) im getting tired of the long diagonal tryhard pass that doesnt really suit our game, its all well and dandy when we pull it off, but that is very rare.

    Play it at the deck, win games, have fun!

  2. GK: Krul, Elliot, Darlow

    RB: ??

    LB: Dummet/Haidara

    CB:  Colo (thank you 1 year worthless extention), mbemba, lascelles.

     

    LW:  Thauvin, Aarons

    CM: Colback, Shelvey, winjaldum, Cabella, Saivet

    RW: Perez?, Townsend

     

    CF: Mitrovic, armstrong

     

    Probably gone/out of contract: sissoko(possible sold), ,Janmaat (possible sold), tiote (possible sold) Cisse (possible sold)

    obertan (out of contract)Marveux (out of contract) taylor (out of contract),

     

    A fair assessment and with my way of thinking also.  Surely enough and with the ability of a transfer kitty,  to be promoted.

     

    i think if we fill up with some decent championship players and one or two prospects we will be fine.

    but its gonna be harder this time around. But the fighting spirit of Mitro will push us up again.

    If he goes, im worried

  3. GK: Krul, Elliot, Darlow

    RB: ??

    LB: Dummet/Haidara

    CB:  Colo (thank you 1 year worthless extention), mbemba, lascelles.

     

    LW:  Thauvin, Aarons

    CM: Colback, Shelvey, winjaldum, Cabella, Saivet

    RW: Perez?, Townsend

     

    CF: Mitrovic, armstrong

     

    Probably gone/out of contract: sissoko(possible sold), ,Janmaat (possible sold), tiote (possible sold) Cisse (possible sold)

    obertan (out of contract)Marveux (out of contract) taylor (out of contract),

  4. The premiership is so reliant on pace and fitness that 28 is actually quite old these days. I'd have little problem if we never bought anyone over 28 again, really. Obviously have players older than that, but as investments I think it's quite a sound strategy.

     

    I would take real Rolls Royce signings like a Berbatov over that age limit. But generally, i'd stay away. I want us to sign players who will get better.

    The problem is that the players we sign never seem to get better, most clearly get worse, in fact it's difficult to think of any player recently who has improved. Maybe Ba? Our coaching as a team and for players individually is appalling. Still most of them are now so s*** that nobody wants to buy them, that's the upside.

    Perch, and perhaps coloccini is the only ones that have gotten clearly better since we signed them in the last... 10 or so years?

  5. The shorter, stocky players (and Ben Arfa falls into this category) shouldn't need to hit the weights, to further strenghten their core & upper body strength. The little guys naturally have a compact, lower centre of gravity, hence they're tougher whack off the ball - they often bounce off/ride challenges better than the big physical specimens. Look at Messi & Maradona - ungainly looking, but they could both ride a tackle, especially a bump from the side/when going past a player. They were both quick off-the-mark, but they didn't have the sort of 'deep' speed which the covering defense is incapable of reeling-in, so the low-centre-of-gravity is/was a pivotal attricute to have (when dealing with secondary etc challenges). Ben Arfa is like those two, he doesn't need to bulk-up in the gym imho.

     

    On the whole footballers i think have become overconditioned physically, too finely tuned. Too much time spent in the gym. They become labrats with a solid-to-excellent-to-prodigious technical ability. Admittedly some kids, like Pogba, are natural specimens - genetically blessed. Sometimes feel that training programes are geared toward producing track&field-like beasts disguised in football shirts. And high-performance athletes, like track&fielders, are prone to soft tissue niggles & tears (greater muscle mass, with their training & match-related workload = more things can go wrong/break down).

     

    First bit your not far off.

     

    But the second bit, oh my, what a load of bullshit.

    you can discuss loss of speed, mobility e.t.c. but saying greater muscle mass = more things that can go wrong you should really read up a bit.

    Actually i've read dribs&drabs about one interesting study, concerning footballers (particularly yth athletes, whether it be round ball, rugby & aussie rules) who over-do it when adding muscle mass in the upper leg areas, especially through the quads & nearby muscle sets, and how they're prone to experiencing persistent groin & hammy issues. It's more of a problem with youngsters, as their bones are still growing/ligaments are still developing, and rapid rate muscle increase can throw a spanner in the works re-durability( without getting into specifics).The Aussie rules code has experienced something of a mini-plague of gym & protein enhanced youngsters breaking down with oestitis-pubis/chronic groin issues. Several clubs are looking to peel back their scientificapproach slightly, by allowing youngsters to grow into their frame, rather than overly force the issue in a short window of time (re: muscle building).

     

    How often do you hear of spectacularly tuned track&fielders pulling-up lame, in training, during the lead-up to an event, or mid-event? Not often are they just right, certainly at a level where their ability to compete with the best isn't compromised.  Those physical versions of an F1 peak during the small windows of opportunity they're not crocked, and with those guys (due to the excellence of the field) a slight niggle equates to being crocked, at least worthy of an withdrawal. The Easter Stawell Gift's (famous sprint event featuring amateurs v world class 'finely tuned' goliaths) guest stars , with their abbreviated appearances, reads more like a physio room casualty list ie. Christie, with Asafa Powell the latest.

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    Professional footballers (of today) are not dissimilar, especially the young-uns: impressive to look at, more explosive thanks to modern science/time spent in the gym, when compared with players of yesteryear. Hence the phrasing earlier, they're like track&field beasts disguised in football kits. There's a greater demand placed on athletic physical excellence (cultivated and/or modified) in club football now, almost at a level akin to t&f, and like the finely tuned & muscular Christies/Powells etc, there's a trade-off/downside when gym-fed/conditioned/tuned explosiveness & power meets a lengthy season preparation & match workload

     

    Sorry about my bad english btw. but here we go :)

     

    1. Well any educated man knows that reffering from one study (wich doesnt even need to have a statistical significant result) doesnt mean the world is flat really?

    Im a Naprapath student (mix between fysio and chiro)

    Still i think your off a bit. If the support staff of newcastle have just a little between their ears they know that just training individual muscle groups are not the way to go unless they have found a unbalanced muscle. (example: a muscle that is weaker than the other side/weaker compared to supporting muscles/weaker than the anatomy chains <-another lecture btw)

     

    2. Every decent study the last 50 years has shown that training strenght is good for your body, no matter if you are 8 or 90, its a matter of amount, specificy and workload combined.

     

    3. Well you are right, without proper guidance in training, specifically footballers have a higher tendency to groin related injuries. But saying its directly related to a total growth of muscle mass is still a bit silly? you dont often see a footballer with awesome adductor muscles do you?

    but as i said you right if you overwork the muscles that fuse into the pubic bone as hopefully no decent trainer would do.

     

    4. Couldnt see in your text that you where talking about kids or the adverce effect of overly forced muscle training. Thats a WHOLE other subject.

     

    Other then that i still get your point and agree with you til some extent. I think (and hope) that coaches as a whole focus much more on anatomical chains and such instead off forcing individual muscles to perform outside its parameters.

     

    On the bit about track runners, yep, as in any sport if you train one muscle group to its limit you are sure to get some problems with them eventually, especially high intensity sports like track runners. Footballers does not equate to track runners in any way, as they work in a singular motion to its full extent, while football has a multidirectional plane of work. And such your argument of track and run is invalid :)

     

    HOWEVER: The trend of younger, fitter and faster players are something to behold, if you look at superstars 10-20 years back, very few of them was 20years old. Its a interesting dilemma and discussion about younguns and their development as well as injuries. But linking them all and saying "Muscle mass=Bad" are still pretty silly in my opinion.

     

    "kraken released"

  6. The shorter, stocky players (and Ben Arfa falls into this category) shouldn't need to hit the weights, to further strenghten their core & upper body strength. The little guys naturally have a compact, lower centre of gravity, hence they're tougher whack off the ball - they often bounce off/ride challenges better than the big physical specimens. Look at Messi & Maradona - ungainly looking, but they could both ride a tackle, especially a bump from the side/when going past a player. They were both quick off-the-mark, but they didn't have the sort of 'deep' speed which the covering defense is incapable of reeling-in, so the low-centre-of-gravity is/was a pivotal attricute to have (when dealing with secondary etc challenges). Ben Arfa is like those two, he doesn't need to bulk-up in the gym imho.

     

    On the whole footballers i think have become overconditioned physically, too finely tuned. Too much time spent in the gym. They become labrats with a solid-to-excellent-to-prodigious technical ability. Admittedly some kids, like Pogba, are natural specimens - genetically blessed. Sometimes feel that training programes are geared toward producing track&field-like beasts disguised in football shirts. And high-performance athletes, like track&fielders, are prone to soft tissue niggles & tears (greater muscle mass, with their training & match-related workload = more things can go wrong/break down).

     

    First bit your not far off.

     

    But the second bit, oh my, what a load of bullshit.

    you can discuss loss of speed, mobility e.t.c. but saying greater muscle mass = more things that can go wrong you should really read up a bit.

     

     

     

  7. suspecting a unhappy triad for the lad,

    i mean, cruciate its 6-10 months just before he can reach the level he was at today...

    unhappy triad its at least a year, guess we will know tomorrow  :(

  8. Been a great professional, model pro, given everything in every match for us, scored lots of goals.

    We got him for free, sell him for 7 mill.. i mean, its been a great deal for us in every way.

    its a shame to loose him for a low fee, but thats about it.

     

    Lets just hope the next one coming trough the door is just as good :)

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