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Rain on me. But I wanted neves and tielemans for our mdf role. Financially both wouldn't have cost as much as tonali cost us (transfer fee and wages inclusive). Yeah you could argue that tonali has more room for improvement, better future but these duo are more pl proven, save us money and has the basic ability required for the team. Mind you, I won't argue much and go deep into this coz I am atleast ok with tonali (he was my 2nd choice for mdf) deal unlike livramento and Harvey Barnes

Stop talking of 30m, it's has been rejected. And Don't forget that those reputable sources are reporting that soton want 40m-ish fee which is already 25% additional costs which still doesn't fit.

Played in pl but not performed up to standard. And what of ucl? What of the pressure of playing in multiple competitions? What of competing for high stakes? Frimpong has all that, and livramento?. There's is no way playing average in a single season is more of proven criteria than playing in more than 1 league, ucl and performing well in uel. Well based on your logic longstaff is more proven than tonali since Sean has played multiple seasons in pl. Then we should have just neglected signing tonali.

How is livramento a proven performer in pl? Only one average performed season. Frimpong has played very good in more than 3 season in 2 different leagues(one of them is a top league) and has played well too in the toughest European competitions. So who is more proven?. C'mon listen to what you are saying

All reports have shown that the ree is 30m straight, no where I have seen any talk of clauses or instalments, besides it is reported they want a very unworthy 40m to 50m pounds(absurd). While leverkusen will demand 40m at most and he is worth it given his stats.

Trippier is 5'10". So neither that tall. Frimpong best characteristics are physical: pace, tenacity, balance, grit and fitness

Clubs do not always get transfers right

If frimpong isn't very good then livramento is total crap. And what does height has to do with this, trippier is also small

Meanwhile we could sign a proven performer in jeremie frimpong for a fee slightly above that esp now that there isn't any competition on him

Now this was what I was talking of and I got almost crucified here. For me he doesn't even worth those £30m talk less of more than that. What are those insane price for? He didn't do anything incredible at top level, only had a season under his belt (performance not that awesome either), has 3years left contract and coming from acl injury, hence there is that risk never being the same player again as history has shown us. One could argue about his talent and potential but his not an A list talent. Use the price of other young players signed to a first team and you'll see he isn't worth it.

People here seem to misunderstand. I never said or implied that I am unhappy with these signings, Just said we could've done better with that huge money.

As if isak, Bruno and botman were proven pl players before they came. Yet they are our best signings

This still doesn't warrant such behaviour. Besides being negative to what you love can sometimes be a good thing. Being positive always is stupid

Still

But Gordon is still not a rw. And what does the manager wants in the player that diaby doesn't have?

Why are you guys so hostile, I am very surprised and disappointed tbh. I swear to God I am not Sunderland fan. So one doesn't have the right to share his opinion or disagree. If you feel what I said is wrong just disagree and bring your reasons, not this

Never played fm before. This is based on simple logic and analysis, and without being sentimental, what I said are actual facts. Just clear your minds and think of it. And I don't know why you guys are being hostile to what I said coz I never said the player is a bad signing, just simply said we could've done better given the conditions I posted. Check out my post again carefully

Doesn't worth the fee tbh. £38m for a player with a year left on his contract, plus the position is not a pressing position. We have willock, gordon, joelinton and isak who can all play there adequately. Gordon was firing in u21 euros, should've have faith in him. Barnes will probably stall his development, which is stupid given we spent more on Gordon. Besides rw is the most pressing position, and moussa diaby who is vastly better, younger, close to WC, double digits in goal contributions for the past 3 seasons, just left for slightly higher fee (€50m) to villa. Now there are no better options in the market for the rw position.

Van dijk is still not himself. While the rest are world class. Meanwhile the list of players who didn't recover the injury well is endless. Sane, vandijk, gosens, Gascoigne, reus, Wesley fofana, sensi, chiesa to name few

Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level

Honestly I am not fully happy with all our signings so far coz I feel we could've done better. I might not be right but I will share my reasons and will be looking forward to your thoughts on my reasons. I will speak on the respective thread of all our signings so far. Now on this on for livrmento...

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