RupertCommunicator Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 If this happened, I'd stop supporting football altogether. What about the Sheff Wed/Utds? The Forests and the Leeds? You can't take away the dream of top flight football! Grass roots is bad enough as it is without forcing the youngsters to folliw their local franchise. And the draft is a turboshit idea. Rewarding failure is just wrong. The real solution is salary caps/transfer caps/enforcing contracts, not penalising the strong. Those teams are listed. Or the Wigans, Blackpools and QPRs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 If this happened, I'd stop supporting football altogether. What about the Sheff Wed/Utds? The Forests and the Leeds? You can't take away the dream of top flight football! Grass roots is bad enough as it is without forcing the youngsters to folliw their local franchise. And the draft is a turboshit idea. Rewarding failure is just wrong. The real solution is salary caps/transfer caps/enforcing contracts, not penalising the strong. Those teams are listed. Or the Wigans, Blackpools and QPRs? NHL, NFL, NBA etc have room for expansion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 How does the draft system work with wages? Is there a structure in place so that if Blackpool got the "New" Rooney in the draft they would be paying him x amount? i've often wondered and asked about this in various places. whats to stop players just saying "nah f*** the draft, i don't want to go there" The only way that players in the USA can be eligible to play in the NFL is to enter the draft. They are then either selected by a team or go un-drafted and become free agents. Until a player goes through the draft they are not eligible to play in the NFL. Players may not want to go the city/team that drafts them - or not for the money being offered, but their only option is to hold out and refuse to sign. However the team that drafted that player still holds their rights, unless they trade them to someone else (or in the case of the NHL, they can re-enter the draft after 3 years (i think this only applies to overseas players). But when you consider the salaries on offer, effectively players can go to Cleveland or Grimsby and become millionaires or go work in Home Depot filling shelves. Most sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 How does the draft system work with wages? Is there a structure in place so that if Blackpool got the "New" Rooney in the draft they would be paying him x amount? i've often wondered and asked about this in various places. whats to stop players just saying "nah f*** the draft, i don't want to go there" The only way that players in the USA can be eligible to play in the NFL is to enter the draft. They are then either selected by a team or go un-drafted and become free agents. Until a player goes through the draft they are not eligible to play in the NFL. Players may not want to go the city/team that drafts them - or not for the money being offered, but their only option is to hold out and refuse to sign. However the team that drafted that player still holds their rights, unless they trade them to someone else (or in the case of the NHL, they can re-enter the draft after 3 years (i think this only applies to overseas players). But when you consider the salaries on offer, effectively players can go to Cleveland or Grimsby and become millionaires or go work in Home Depot filling shelves. Most sign. Didn't Eric Lindros pull that stunt with Quebec, refused to play for them. Quebec eventually traded him to the flyers for a mega deal. Quebec scored big time and totally turned the Hockey Club/Franchise around. NHL Entry DraftLindros's entry to the National Hockey League proceeded in much the same manner. Lindros was selected first overall by the Quebec Nordiques in the 1991 NHL Entry Draft. Lindros had signaled in advance that he would never play for the Nordiques, citing distance, lack of marketing potential, and having to speak French. He went as far as to refuse to wear the team's jersey on draft day; the team selected him anyway. The Nordiques president publicly announced that they would make Lindros the centrepiece of their franchise turnaround, and refused to trade Lindros, saying that he would not have a career in the NHL as long as he held out. Because of Lindros' popularity and hype, it is alleged that the NHL President intervened to get the Nordiques to trade him, as it would otherwise damage the image of the league.[citation needed] While he awaited a trade, Lindros spent the time playing with the Oshawa Generals and also participated in the 1992 Winter Olympics, winning a Silver Medal with Team Canada. In 1992, the Nordiques worked out trades for him with both the New York Rangers, and Philadelphia Flyers. Eventually an arbitrator, Larry Bertuzzi (granduncle of Todd Bertuzzi),[6] ruled in favour of the Flyers, for whom Lindros played from 1992 to 2000, most of the time as the team's captain.[7] Many consider this trade a key reason that the Colorado Avalanche (the new name of the Nordiques after they relocated before the 1995-96 season), went on to be an NHL powerhouse. They received in the trade the rights to eventual Hart Trophy winner Peter Forsberg, as well as Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Mike Ricci, Kerry Huffman, Steve Duchesne, a 1st round selection (Jocelyn Thibault) in 1993, a 1st round selection (later traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs, later traded to the Washington Capitals—Nolan Baumgartner) in 1994, and $15,000,000 cash. Since the trade, the Avalanche have won eight division titles and two Stanley Cup championships, due in part to the play of Forsberg, and the later addition of Patrick Roy, whom the Avalanche received in a later package deal that included Thibault.[8] The trade between the Nordiques and the Rangers that was ruled invalid by the arbitrator had Lindros being traded for Doug Weight, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, John Vanbiesbrouck, three first round draft picks (1993, 1994 & 1995) and $12 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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