Guest HTT II Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shak said: It would be an honour to see myself in his shit. Dorty filth! Edited August 28, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mansour said: You can clearly tell that he used to be a centre back from watching him briefly. Below average ball control and distribution. Doesn’t sound great for the money being bandied about. However, they’ve obviously seen something in him to think he’ll strengthen the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansour Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Certainly, that is if we are actually interested in him. Time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: For the real football geeks on here how does Alvarez compare in ability to Haidara and this Kone who we’re linked with ? I’d never heard of him which means nowt, but read that Van Basten once said he was to slow. From brief YouTube footage seems to get his foot in and has a decent dig on him, but wouldn’t say I was blown away in comparison to clips of the other 2 I’ve seen. Alvarez is your typical defensive midfielder - literally sits in front of the back 4 - really neat with his passes Haidara is more athletic - more of a box to box - good on the ball The one that impresses me the most is Kone - big, athletic, skilful and his passing is a lot quicker - prefer my defensive midfielder to pass the ball quicker which he does - plus at 20 he’s amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, Lazarus said: So where does he fit in? He sits deep and allows Joelinton and Bruno to push up i assume? Exactly that. Allows Bruno to operate in oppositions halves more often and provides a good passing range on top of defensive cover. Good in the air too. Would be absolutely delighted with him and I'd probably implode if we got Pulisic on loan on top of Alvarez. Likewise if we got Maddison instead of Alvarez but I just can't see Leicester selling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Exactly that. Allows Bruno to operate in oppositions halves more often and provides a good passing range on top of defensive cover. Good in the air too. Would be absolutely delighted with him and I'd probably implode if we got Pulisic on loan on top of Alvarez. Likewise if we got Maddison instead of Alvarez but I just can't see Leicester selling. Unless we are really paying over the odds and Ajax can't refuse I don't see why they sell. They are pocketing 80m for Antony. If they don't want to lose him then it's a non starter. We won't however likely be coming in for the first time fresh with Alvarez, if it's true. We will have been talking to club and player for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I imagine the Antony deal puts a stop to anymore outgoings at Ajax. Unless ofcourse we really are offering something outrageously over what they think Alvarez is worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Seems a lot like agent talk this Alvarez one. No decent sources reporting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 10 hours ago, joeyt said: Sander Berge would be a good option I reckon Jeez why dont you just marry him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 It's fun to speculate but at the end of the day it's most likely that any deal or deals will emerge, mostly fully formed, out of nowhere. Just like the Isak deal did. Had been in the works for a while and then was rekindled in 48 hours without any media reporting. Pretty exciting, honestly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said: Exactly that. Allows Bruno to operate in oppositions halves more often and provides a good passing range on top of defensive cover. Good in the air too. Would be absolutely delighted with him and I'd probably implode if we got Pulisic on loan on top of Alvarez. Likewise if we got Maddison instead of Alvarez but I just can't see Leicester selling. As good as Maddison is, you could have him in the side today instead of Longstaff or Willock and the result of the game may not have been any different. Alvarez makes us stronger though, their goal probably doesn’t happen and we just have more overall control. It unleashes Joelinton who might have less of the dirty work to do and get more into the link up play. Bruno we know can do it all but he also doesn’t have to quite so much of the dirty work so way more structure and control in being creative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: As good as Maddison is, you could have him in the side today instead of Longstaff or Willock and the result of the game may not have been any different. Alvarez makes us stronger though, their goal probably doesn’t happen and we just have more overall control. It unleashes Joelinton who might have less of the dirty work to do and get more into the link up play. Bruno we know can do it all but he also doesn’t have to quite so much of the dirty work so way more structure and control in being creative. Maddison instead of Willock or Longstaff probably makes no difference but Alvarez playing probably stops their goal ? What's this based on ? Any way, as much as a few of you want a designated DM to allow Bruno to go further forward, I think Brunos most important role for us is that transition from defence forward, they can play it to him and we don't panic on losing it and he finds our players, often in great positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, madras said: Maddison instead of Willock or Longstaff probably makes no difference but Alvarez playing probably stops their goal ? What's this based on ? Any way, as much as a few of you want a designated DM to allow Bruno to go further forward, I think Brunos most important role for us is that transition from defence forward, they can play it to him and we don't panic on losing it and he finds our players, often in great positions. Well Willock didn’t close down properly and started from bad positioning to begin with, so there’s that. An excellent DM will have snuffed out that chance much earlier. The few games we’ve played this season so far have made mention to missing Shelvey, well Alvarez is a massive upgrade on Shelvey, he does all of it and a lot better too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 How would you even know if Alvarez was on the same spot as Willock? Pointless speculation and Willock was unlucky it didn't hit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Well Willock didn’t close down properly and started from bad positioning to begin with, so there’s that. An excellent DM will have snuffed out that chance much earlier. The few games we’ve played this season so far have made mention to missing Shelvey, well Alvarez is a massive upgrade on Shelvey, he does all of it and a lot better too. Willock didn't close down so Alvarez would have been there to do it ? Righto. As for Shelvey some have made that point, I've disagreed, Shelvey is Brunos back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, Pata said: How would you even know if Alvarez was on the same spot as Willock? Pointless speculation and Willock was unlucky it didn't hit him. Think Willock is a little powder puff in the challenge, generally. Trippier gave him a bollocking later on in the game for pulling out of a 50/50 that nearly cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Mark Douglas thinks one more in, on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Mark Douglas thinks one more in, on loan. He also knows nothing so if he’s correct it will be more luck than judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Really needs to be 2 but if it must only be 1 then RW is certainly what it needs to be. CDM is important but we hugely lack goals and creativity to break down defensive teams, especially when Wilson and Bruno are out so RW I think should take priority. Pulisic is the dream ofcourse but can't see that happening and Harrison seems very unlikely now so they'd need to pull soemthing out the bag in the next few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, r0cafella said: He also knows nothing so if he’s correct it will be more luck than judgement. Aye he pretty much admits he's guessing with that Isak line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Waugh saying 2 more in still wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Balls on the bath, then… Do we get a midfielder and winger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 If we do it's surely dependant on outgoings too - who's going to want Murphy and Shortstaff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Waugh saying 2 more in still wanted. Douglas is saying that too. Another midfielder is priority. Anything else is just a bonus. Still holding out hope for Maddison with Leicester looking to be in a bit of shit already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Been having a debate with a mate about what we need more, I'm firmly in the Almiron isn't good enough camp so we seriously need a proper RW, but now having seen what our midfield looks like without Bruno I think that area should be priority if it's only one. These injuries are already exposing glaring squad weaknesses all over, but we can't buy a full new squad it will take a few seasons to have a quality squad in full, I just hope we are getting the injuries out of the way early. Personally I'd like a Maddison type middle player as a priority, someone positive and creative, a bigger threat from the RW position brought in, and maybe even a right back on loan until January. Would hope that we can somehow offload Murphy until too so he can play as little as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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