Keegans Export Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: No, it's all based on amortisation. Tonali adds £11m to this season's player amortisation, not £55m (or whatever the actual numbers are). Then you also add his wages of ~£7m. So, roughly speaking, he added £18m in total on the cost side for this season and the next four afterwards. OK, thanks. So at least the costs are worked out the same way as the current PSR, they're just doing it 85% per season rather than £105m losses per 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, Paully said: https://twitter.com/londonblue_2/status/1763270840223764637?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA Interesting to see how long it took for Blackburn to drop off that list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: OK, thanks. So at least the costs are worked out the same way as the current PSR, they're just doing it 85% per season rather than £105m losses per 3 years. That's if they just switch from one to the other. UEFA has versions of both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Let alone NUFC, who have consistently messaged that they will remain within FFP rules. At some point the message will become clear. I also don’t think that everyone has quite sussed what PIF is - this isn’t a Man City / PSG style takeover being blocked by perfidious forces in UEFA or the PL. There isn’t an unlimited funding bucket, and KSA isn’t a tiny city state - it’s a decent sized country, and this is a sovereign wealth fund. They’re unlikely to be looking to spunk billions on NUFC. It’s an investment, not a vanity project. With Saudi Arabia there's always going to be some element of a vanity project. They won't want to be some type of also rans, if the club is associated with them, they'll want to win stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Wouldn’t surprise me if Nick De Marco brings FFP / FMV crashing down He is representing Nottingham Forest in their Appeal v Premier league points deduction for breaching FFP Sure I read something about him thinking it was all anti competitive Sure he is working his magic in the background Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Kieran Maguire has said Villa are about to post a record loss of £138 million soon, they have already reported this to UEFA. It will be one of the biggest losses of any European team for last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRon said: With Saudi Arabia there's always going to be some element of a vanity project. They won't want to be some type of also rans, if the club is associated with them, they'll want to win stuff. You had the Chairman saying exactly what PIFs target is - to be the number 1 team in the world. You're not going to get there without huge spending over a period of time. At the moment they are building within the rules by increasing revenue year by year. We will see new sponsorship/commercial deals this year. Medium to long term we will see a new training complex and I'm still convinced a new stadium. Edited March 1 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, JonBez comesock said: Wouldn’t surprise me if Nick De Marco brings FFP / FMV crashing down He is representing Nottingham Forest in their Appeal v Premier league points deduction for breaching FFP Sure I read something about him thinking it was all anti competitive Sure he is working his magic in the background Here you go. https://x.com/nickdemarco_/status/1735644167521341793?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, TRon said: With Saudi Arabia there's always going to be some element of a vanity project. They won't want to be some type of also rans, if the club is associated with them, they'll want to win stuff. Agreed re an element of vanity, but this is still a different beast. This doesn’t mean that I don’t believe that they’re aiming high; but I don’t think it will be by just directly chucking money at it 41 minutes ago, et tu brute said: You had the Chairman saying exactly what PIFs target is - to be the number 1 team in the world. You're not going to get there without huge spending over a period of time. At the moment they are building within the rules by increasing revenue year by year. We will see new sponsorship/commercial deals this year. Medium to long term we will see a new training complex and I'm still convinced a new stadium. True, and I think the likeliest large direct cash input by PIF would be a new ground. I don’t think they’re simply going to pour money in directly generally - that doesn’t mean they’re not aiming to be number 1; the money is far more likely to be coming from more ‘indirect’ sources Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: Kieran Maguire has said Villa are about to post a record loss of £138 million soon, they have already reported this to UEFA. It will be one of the biggest losses of any European team for last year. It just doesn't seem right to me from a sport or entertainment point of view that they'd have been fine if they'd just muddled around in midtable showing no ambition at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 hours ago, wormy said: Interesting to see how long it took for Blackburn to drop off that list. Certainly contradicts the recent rewriting of history pushed by Shearer amongst others that Blackburn did a Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Certainly contradicts the recent rewriting of history pushed by Shearer amongst others that Blackburn did a Leicester. They very clearly didn’t. They both spent more relative to others and had less competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 https://twitter.com/deadlinedaylive/status/1763479958947578108?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 34 minutes ago, Paully said: https://twitter.com/deadlinedaylive/status/1763479958947578108?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA What's Palace's voting record like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 6 minutes ago, madras said: What's Palace's voting record like ? Cockney drip Parish has tried to fuck us over at every turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 23 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Cockney drip Parish has tried to fuck us over at every turn. Thought so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, madras said: What's Palace's voting record like ? They’ve voted with the majority every time which makes these comments contradictory surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) Merse just saying on GSS that the rules have to change - their purpose is to keep the top three at the top and not allow anyone to catch them. Edit. I mean it's the 'top six', but you have to remember that Merse can't count. Edited March 2 by DahnSahf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: They’ve voted with the majority every time which makes these comments contradictory surely. Them and Villa abstained at the PL meeting early last month re more onerous rules. Had one of them voted against the new rules wouldn’t have been passed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 6 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: They’ve voted with the majority every time which makes these comments contradictory surely. Nah it seems there’s a bit of a schism forming between Parish and Textor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 It doesn't feel like something if going to change shortly doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 12 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Them and Villa abstained at the PL meeting early last month re more onerous rules. Had one of them voted against the new rules wouldn’t have been passed. Which is fucking ridiculous why would Villa abstain in their situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 13 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Which is fucking ridiculous why would Villa abstain in their situation. Who knows…..now I wonder if this is genuine? https://x.com/mccull41/status/1763502109054415351?s=46&t=RaLdCRuzyWBbm603Y3eUgg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 23 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Them and Villa abstained at the PL meeting early last month re more onerous rules. Had one of them voted against the new rules wouldn’t have been passed. They have only starting to change their minds on things now that they have acquired land needed for their new £100m stand in the last few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Everton - Pts deduction (with another coming) Forest - pts deduction (because they didn't bow down and sell their star player on the cheap by a specific date) Citeh - so many charges they cant charge them Chelsea - massively foul and only time till they are done. Villa - have to sell to stay with ffp for daring to show an ounce of ambition NUFC - Owned by the richest company in the world and couldn't sign a single player during their worst injury crisis since records began Wolves - Skirting around the edges of a breach, couldn't sign players. Add the likes of Palace now saying they can't sign players, surely someone needs to pull the rug from under FFP before it ruins the sport any further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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