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They really are. It's not that they purposefully rub your noses in it either. It isn't malicious. They are just sickeningly over confident. Most of them never entertained the possibility that they could lose today. Because they don't lose in the round of 16, so they won't. This is just business as usual, that's what is so infuriating about them. They will make the semi-finals, because they always bloody do, and that's the way it is. So why bother with nerves? Sounds familiar. English overconfidence is a defence against the fear of failure. "GET IN, we STUFFED Slovenia, f*** off back to Eastern Europe, INGURRLAND etc." No English supporter ever goes into a match without at least entertaining the idea of humiliation and defeat. The expectations are so unrealistically high because the frustrations and tensions build every 2-4 years. This is why the English can be so insufferable in victory. Every taste of glory comes as an unexpected surprise. German overconfidence is just pure, concentrated arrogance. The eternal sunshine of the spotless World Cup record. No one has ever sat them down and explained to them what failure feels like, or how to accomplish it. No Gareth Southgates, hands of gods or Scott Norwoods keeping them awake at night. They are outstanding.

They really are. It's not that they purposefully rub your noses in it either. It isn't malicious. They are just sickeningly over confident. Most of them never entertained the possibility that they could lose today. Because they don't lose in the round of 16, so they won't. This is just business as usual, that's what is so infuriating about them. They will make the semi-finals, because they always bloody do, and that's the way it is. So why bother with nerves? When they started singing 'football's coming home' after beating us in '96....it didn't occur to me until meeting more Germans that they probably didn't intend that to be as irritating as it was.

I think Jayson has a point. England had chances. It was not lopsided in terms of possession. It was the quality when you had the ball where Germany were miles and miles ahead. I will never understand how the Germans can be so clinical and so ruthless in front of goal. There isn't an English player in my life time who had the level of maturity and confidence playing for the national team that Ozul is exhibiting at the age of 21. It is incredible. He is a kid, one year removed from the U-21 side, and he just looks like a world beater. Put that German shirt on him, and he's just another Muller, Klinsmann, Bierhoff etc. How do they produce these football robots?

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He'll probably still stay with us even if he does get the England job so dream on. Hope so. That would be a disaster. "Another disappointing result for Spurs here today really does make you wonder whether Redknapp's full attention is with his club or with his country....."

Would be nice for Spurs to lose their manager at this point. Redknapp for England.

They're superbly organised and excellent on the counter. They thoroughly deserve this, with the exception of the phantom goal. International football has always been about playing as a team rather than relying on excellent individuals, which is why the Germans have always been pretty good. No question they've deserved it. But I will never understand how a player like Klose or Podolski can disappear for an entire club season, put on the German shirt and still look like the typical Germanobot superstar. Every year. Without fail. It's outstanding. No matter what happens in club football, they will find 11 players with German passports that will make the semi-finals. Pride. Half of them aren't even real Germans. It can't just be pride. . I don't buy that s*** at all, they've lived there most their lives and are 'officially' German and clearly do have pride I just don't put it down to their superior pride at being naturalised Germans. It seems like a cop out.

They're superbly organised and excellent on the counter. They thoroughly deserve this, with the exception of the phantom goal. International football has always been about playing as a team rather than relying on excellent individuals, which is why the Germans have always been pretty good. No question they've deserved it. But I will never understand how a player like Klose or Podolski can disappear for an entire club season, put on the German shirt and still look like the typical Germanobot superstar. Every year. Without fail. It's outstanding. No matter what happens in club football, they will find 11 players with German passports that will make the semi-finals. Pride. Half of them aren't even real Germans. It can't just be pride.

That's one of the scariest things I've ever seen. Still can't tell what the hell it is. Chicago_Shearer! Cheer up! You know what's on, man. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :fwap: :'( :'( :'( :'(

Ian Holloway for England manager. Going to be a while before I can bring myself to give a damn after that, so might as well have a laugh.

There isn't one player on the pitch today that I wouldn't reconsider for the qualifiers. This generation had their chance and failed. Including Wayne Rooney.

They don't look like they give a fuck.

When we're getting picked apart by players that turn into world beaters when they put on the Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City shirt etc.

B They're superbly organised and excellent on the counter. They thoroughly deserve this, with the exception of the phantom goal. International football has always been about playing as a team rather than relying on excellent individuals, which is why the Germans have always been pretty good. No question they've deserved it. But I will never understand how a player like Klose or Podolski can disappear for an entire club season, put on the German shirt and still look like the typical Germanobot superstar. Every year. Without fail. It's outstanding. No matter what happens in club football, they will find 11 players with German passports that will make the semi-finals. They're just well drilled, man. That's the only logical explanation. They played their game today. They sat back, soaked up pressure and counter-attacked, like they've done this entire World Cup. They have a set style of play and the players fit into the formation; the formation isn't fitted around the players. But every year since '74? Well-drilled doesn't begin to explain it. They could do it with anyone they liked. No pressure, no nerves, all confidence.

They're superbly organised and excellent on the counter. They thoroughly deserve this, with the exception of the phantom goal. International football has always been about playing as a team rather than relying on excellent individuals, which is why the Germans have always been pretty good. No question they've deserved it. But I will never understand how a player like Klose or Podolski can disappear for an entire club season, put on the German shirt and still look like the typical Germanobot superstar. Every year. Without fail. It's outstanding. No matter what happens in club football, every four years they will find 11 players with German passports that will make the semi-finals.

God's a German, he really is. Not only are they going to get revenge for the goal in '66, they are going to win 5-1. And with a team that will do nothing in club football. It's outstanding, it really is. I don't know how they do it.

Gareth Barry.

Good sub.

I'd take a few swan dives in the area for the next 45 minutes. The ref must have seen the replay at half time. We are due a favour.

Even fucking Klinsmann called that a disgrace.

eh? I assume he smashed it over someone's head ala WWF. It hit the floor when I got up. The back has sort of detached from the seat but it might be repairable.

I just broke a fucking chair. I've never seen a decision that bad. Ever.

We're going to lose. Because of that.

YOU FUCKING CUNT

OH MY GOD