Stevie

My relegration fiars r alll butt over. Hand on Hart I Thinc Charltin WatFord (Durty Cunts) and Middilsborugh will all goe down.

Which aways do you love and why, choose 3 options. Also name the aways you hate. My favourite away place is Blackburn, fair enough you end up humming the Hovis tune in your head for the 4 or 5 hours you spend there, but it's easy to get tickets for, we have a huge pub all for ourselves, the ground is quite nice, you can be back home in under 2 and a half hours and I've got happy memories of the place. I've only been to Pompey once, last season, and I won't go back till they improve the ground and unless you have a stay over in London the journeys a nightmare. The atmosphere in the away end seems to drift away, and one fuckin bog for 3,000 = nah.

:winking: I'm starting to get a bit of form going so I'll give you tomorrows picks as well. Tomorrow's 10a Chelsea to beat Arsenal 4/6 - Absolute certainties for me Recreativo to beat Bilbao away 2/1 - Looking at that you must think I'm mad until you know the crack of La Liga this season. Bilbao have always had a great home record, this season however partly due to an injury crisis, Athletic's form in the San Memes is so poor. P6 W0 D2 L4. They sit marooned in the relegation zone having lost four on the bounce. Recreativo Huelva however are as high as 6th in La Liga 2 points of a CL spot, they've won half their away games, at Sociedad, as well as Celta Vigo and Villarreal (only side to beat Villarreal there), both of whom are much better than Athletic. It's a gamble, but at odds of 2/1 it's a good value gamble, and Sinama Pongolle who's on loan from Liverpool is chipping in with a few. Lille to beat St Ettiene 8/11 Lille were very impressive against AC Milan in the San Siro on Wednesday, albeit a slightly weakened Milan, but anyone that can win 2-0 in the San Siro surely are no mugs. St Ettiene's home form is fantastic, which is why they're fifth, away from home however they haven't won since August 12th which will ultimately cost them a place in Europe. 10a on this has everychance of coming in and will see a return of around £82.

Right just been to the bookies and despite a recent losing streak I have some confident picks today. First bet I've done and they all speak for themselves Bolton to beat West Ham 8/11 Liverpool to beat Fulham 1/3 Man Utd to beat Man City 4/11 Yids to beat Charlton 8/15 Basically 7/2 - and just look at them they're all certainties. Second more risky bet Palace to beat Colchester Evens Granted Palace aren't pulling up nee trees, but Colchester have only won 1 of 11 away. Sunderland to beat Luron 8/11 Luton have lost 7 of their last 8, and their last four aways, while the mackems are developing a decent nack of playing shite and winning 1-0, I think that will be the case today again. Brentford to lose at home to Tranmere 5/4 Surely the best bet anyone will ever see. Tranmere have won 4 of their last 5, and are sitting third. The one they didn't win was a creditable 1-1 draw away at second placed Scunthorpe. Brentford on the other hand haven't even scored a goal for 7 weeks (SEVEN), never mind win a game, and the results of their last two home games have been, Brentford 0 Crewe 4, and Brentford 0 Doncaster 4. 5/4 surely on this basis feels like a crime against the bookies. Wycombe to beat Barnet 4/6 Wycombe are decent at home. Darlo by all accounts are a better side than their mid table position would show, and Wanderers eased past them in midweek. Barnet on the other hand are shite, particularly away. This bet pays just over 12/1 If you take my advice gamble what you can afford, but the top one in particular really should come off. Got £3 on Vidic first goal as well against Citeh.

The good thing is he's nearly always wrong. He'll get 8 out of 10 one week in twenty, headlines "LAWRO DOES IT AGAIN", the next week he gets 1 out of 10 and it's like Man Utd at home to Watford and nothing is said. I think we'll get something if we keep Shabani Nonda quiet, he wasn't £15m 3 seasons ago for nothing, and I think he'll kick on from here, because he's got the lot.

Not that I give a shit about this incredibly puerile argument, but you could point out that if the capacity is 36,000 and the average for that season is over 35,000, then it is pretty much safe to say that every game was either close enough to a sellout to actually be one (ie 35,900 is a sell out effectively) or there were games when away teams didnt fill their allocation. not really as you have to remember that because it is an average then there has to be a good few games where the actual attendance is below even that. But not that many, as the attendance can never be above 36000 - so for the average to be almost 36k, the lowest gates must have been still quite close to that, or the average would be much lower. If you get my drift. Not that I care about their attendances, my main objection to Spurs fans is one half decent season and they think they're Barcelona all of a sudden. You're pretty well spot on regarding the attendances, Spurs report attendances on bodies going through the gates, not tickets sold, so the money is received even though there might not be a bum on the seat. Matthew Collecott, the Finance Director said in the Annual Accounts published today "FA Premier League gate receipts increased by 4%, which reflects increases in ticket prices rather than capacity as we invariably play to a full house. The ongoing challenge remains maximising the number of ways we utilise the Stadium as season tickets have remained at record levels and the waiting list is ever increasing and heads towards 20,000." http://admin.tottenhamhotspur.com/docstore/prelimresultsdec8.doc Can't honestly agree that Spurs fans, generally speaking, think we are anywhere near Barcelona, EPL Top 4 etc, most are realistic to accept that we are probably at least 3 years away from making a serious challenge on the top 4, let alone Barcelona! I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh. The figures were for last season, and as I previously pointed out that was the first season you consistently managed to fill your little ground. You were in the top 4 for most of the season, so you fuckin should! This season the demand has went down yet again, despite being unbeaten at home, and you're now down to the 2004 levels of 34,000 again i.e Boro. "I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh." I agree I think you'll be back at your natural level this season 10-14th, which indeed I predicted before a ball was kicked. Demand for tickets isn't going down, still as high as before. With regard to Spurs' finishing position, I wasn't thinking of 10-14th, more like 7th or possibly 8th. Still, your prediction may turn out to be accurate, time will tell. Out of curiosity, when you made your prediction about Spurs before a ball was kicked, did you make a similar prediction about Newcastle? My main prediction was we'd finish above Tottenham, and I put an open bet to anyone that wanted it that I'd give you a 5 point start. I stand by that. If we beat Blackburn we could be 6 points off a CL spot with a game in hand. 34,000 is not selling out. WOW and IF we beat Charlton we COULD be tied 3rd. See how ridiculous that sounds. At least you concede Tottenham and third sounds ridiculous.

Well seeing as though Jenas is in the picture, double figures might be the amount of male sexual partners he's had in his 15 months in London.

Not that I give a shit about this incredibly puerile argument, but you could point out that if the capacity is 36,000 and the average for that season is over 35,000, then it is pretty much safe to say that every game was either close enough to a sellout to actually be one (ie 35,900 is a sell out effectively) or there were games when away teams didnt fill their allocation. not really as you have to remember that because it is an average then there has to be a good few games where the actual attendance is below even that. But not that many, as the attendance can never be above 36000 - so for the average to be almost 36k, the lowest gates must have been still quite close to that, or the average would be much lower. If you get my drift. Not that I care about their attendances, my main objection to Spurs fans is one half decent season and they think they're Barcelona all of a sudden. You're pretty well spot on regarding the attendances, Spurs report attendances on bodies going through the gates, not tickets sold, so the money is received even though there might not be a bum on the seat. Matthew Collecott, the Finance Director said in the Annual Accounts published today "FA Premier League gate receipts increased by 4%, which reflects increases in ticket prices rather than capacity as we invariably play to a full house. The ongoing challenge remains maximising the number of ways we utilise the Stadium as season tickets have remained at record levels and the waiting list is ever increasing and heads towards 20,000." http://admin.tottenhamhotspur.com/docstore/prelimresultsdec8.doc Can't honestly agree that Spurs fans, generally speaking, think we are anywhere near Barcelona, EPL Top 4 etc, most are realistic to accept that we are probably at least 3 years away from making a serious challenge on the top 4, let alone Barcelona! I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh. The figures were for last season, and as I previously pointed out that was the first season you consistently managed to fill your little ground. You were in the top 4 for most of the season, so you fuckin should! This season the demand has went down yet again, despite being unbeaten at home, and you're now down to the 2004 levels of 34,000 again i.e Boro. "I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh." I agree I think you'll be back at your natural level this season 10-14th, which indeed I predicted before a ball was kicked. Demand for tickets isn't going down, still as high as before. With regard to Spurs' finishing position, I wasn't thinking of 10-14th, more like 7th or possibly 8th. Still, your prediction may turn out to be accurate, time will tell. Out of curiosity, when you made your prediction about Spurs before a ball was kicked, did you make a similar prediction about Newcastle? My main prediction was we'd finish above Tottenham, and I put an open bet to anyone that wanted it that I'd give you a 5 point start. I stand by that. If we beat Blackburn we could be 6 points off a CL spot with a game in hand. 34,000 is not selling out.

Not that I give a shit about this incredibly puerile argument, but you could point out that if the capacity is 36,000 and the average for that season is over 35,000, then it is pretty much safe to say that every game was either close enough to a sellout to actually be one (ie 35,900 is a sell out effectively) or there were games when away teams didnt fill their allocation. not really as you have to remember that because it is an average then there has to be a good few games where the actual attendance is below even that. But not that many, as the attendance can never be above 36000 - so for the average to be almost 36k, the lowest gates must have been still quite close to that, or the average would be much lower. If you get my drift. Not that I care about their attendances, my main objection to Spurs fans is one half decent season and they think they're Barcelona all of a sudden. You're pretty well spot on regarding the attendances, Spurs report attendances on bodies going through the gates, not tickets sold, so the money is received even though there might not be a bum on the seat. Matthew Collecott, the Finance Director said in the Annual Accounts published today "FA Premier League gate receipts increased by 4%, which reflects increases in ticket prices rather than capacity as we invariably play to a full house. The ongoing challenge remains maximising the number of ways we utilise the Stadium as season tickets have remained at record levels and the waiting list is ever increasing and heads towards 20,000." http://admin.tottenhamhotspur.com/docstore/prelimresultsdec8.doc Can't honestly agree that Spurs fans, generally speaking, think we are anywhere near Barcelona, EPL Top 4 etc, most are realistic to accept that we are probably at least 3 years away from making a serious challenge on the top 4, let alone Barcelona! I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh. The figures were for last season, and as I previously pointed out that was the first season you consistently managed to fill your little ground. You were in the top 4 for most of the season, so you fuckin should! This season the demand has went down yet again, despite being unbeaten at home, and you're now down to the 2004 levels of 34,000 again i.e Boro. "I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh." I agree I think you'll be back at your natural level this season 10-14th, which indeed I predicted before a ball was kicked. Just to point out, you lied again. We lost to Everton this season at home. Compulsive lying disorder hits stevie yet again. Ah yes, I stand corrected, that was when LEON OSMAN and PHIL NEVILLE ripped you to shreds

Not that I give a shit about this incredibly puerile argument, but you could point out that if the capacity is 36,000 and the average for that season is over 35,000, then it is pretty much safe to say that every game was either close enough to a sellout to actually be one (ie 35,900 is a sell out effectively) or there were games when away teams didnt fill their allocation. not really as you have to remember that because it is an average then there has to be a good few games where the actual attendance is below even that. But not that many, as the attendance can never be above 36000 - so for the average to be almost 36k, the lowest gates must have been still quite close to that, or the average would be much lower. If you get my drift. Not that I care about their attendances, my main objection to Spurs fans is one half decent season and they think they're Barcelona all of a sudden. You're pretty well spot on regarding the attendances, Spurs report attendances on bodies going through the gates, not tickets sold, so the money is received even though there might not be a bum on the seat. Matthew Collecott, the Finance Director said in the Annual Accounts published today "FA Premier League gate receipts increased by 4%, which reflects increases in ticket prices rather than capacity as we invariably play to a full house. The ongoing challenge remains maximising the number of ways we utilise the Stadium as season tickets have remained at record levels and the waiting list is ever increasing and heads towards 20,000." http://admin.tottenhamhotspur.com/docstore/prelimresultsdec8.doc Can't honestly agree that Spurs fans, generally speaking, think we are anywhere near Barcelona, EPL Top 4 etc, most are realistic to accept that we are probably at least 3 years away from making a serious challenge on the top 4, let alone Barcelona! I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh. The figures were for last season, and as I previously pointed out that was the first season you consistently managed to fill your little ground. You were in the top 4 for most of the season, so you fuckin should! This season the demand has went down yet again, despite being unbeaten at home, and you're now down to the 2004 levels of 34,000 again i.e Boro. "I'd happily settle for a top 6 finish this season, although I think we'll come up short tbh." I agree I think you'll be back at your natural level this season 10-14th, which indeed I predicted before a ball was kicked.

Just because I had a photograph of idiots throwing chairs in Frankfurt as my avatar (good chance of them being fans fans of Tottenham, Chelsea or fuckin West Ham), does that mean I'm Harry the fuckin Dog or Paul Dodd?!?!? In the history of the internet, I don't think there has been a bigger mong than you son. Please do one.

Do they? Have you got links to show this? I know Liverpool were only offered 2100 in the league at the end of last season which has nothing to so with the size of our away support as we have always sold out down there including a much larger allocation for a Sunday FA Cup tie at Fratton kicking off at 6pm (surely the most ludicrous mucking about of fixtures by TV in years). thats the thing, he hardly ever has any links or any sufficient evidence to back up the things he types. He gives us these vital statistics, sprinkles some numbers on top and WOLAH we now have Stevie's make beleive facts. Some of you (as much as it pains me to say) actually come up with some pretty decent arguments but that guy is a complete joke. I've countered everything you've said (with evidence) you boring mug. Ban this cock or ban me. As Gemmill pointed out if you had basic intelligence, then banter could exist here, you don't though so even posting is a waste of time for you. :lol: . You've now resorted to giving out ultimatums on a messageboard. The way you react to me leads me to beleive you're really the school kid on this board. Ive always complied to the forum rules so i see no reason why i should be banned. Stop crying and man up little boy :lol: You're shit though and boring, reading your posts is an actual effort. Every time you post, I and I'm sure many others think "why does this person exist?". Hold on one minute, i hope you werent the poster who previously had English hooligans throwing chairs as hes avator? Oh dear

Yet we win the Champions League and are called lucky after beating Juventus, Chelsea and Milan is succession? You can't win. The FA Cup is littered with examples of teams reaching the final after playing only 1 or 2 top division opponents. It's probably more the norm than not. There's even examples of clubs reaching the final after playing no top division opponents. Let's take a trip back to 1974 and the "luckless" Newcastle who faced: 3rd round: Hendon (non-league) 4th round: Scunthorpe (4th Division) 5th round: West Brom (2nd Division) 1/4 final: Nottm Forest (2nd Division) 1/2 final: Burnley (Top division) so no different from LFC in 1992? or 1998 when the "luckless" Newcastle faced: 3rd round: Everton (top division) - finished 17th 4th round: Stevenage (non-league) 5th round: Tranmere (2nd Division) 1/4 final: Barnsley (top division) - relegated 1/2 final: Sheffield Uinted (2nd Division) so no different from 2001 - apart from Leeds being a far better side in that rather than being in the bottom four they reached the Champions League semi-finals that year? If you're going to throw around statistics to back up a hypothesis at least be consistent with all clubs. As I said earlier - it's not luck Newcastle lack, but bottle. In 1998 against Arsenal Shearer hits the inside of the post, the VERY inside and the ball bounces out, which would've made it 1-1, if that goes in the game can swing, then Dabizas hits the bar. If they're wearing Liverpool shirts they go in. I've just that back again, and fuck me do I sound bitter, I am, but at least I admit it, and I stand by the statement Liverpool Football Club are the luckiest sporting entity on earth.

Do they? Have you got links to show this? I know Liverpool were only offered 2100 in the league at the end of last season which has nothing to so with the size of our away support as we have always sold out down there including a much larger allocation for a Sunday FA Cup tie at Fratton kicking off at 6pm (surely the most ludicrous mucking about of fixtures by TV in years). thats the thing, he hardly ever has any links or any sufficient evidence to back up the things he types. He gives us these vital statistics, sprinkles some numbers on top and WOLAH we now have Stevie's make beleive facts. Some of you (as much as it pains me to say) actually come up with some pretty decent arguments but that guy is a complete joke. I've countered everything you've said (with evidence) you boring mug. Ban this cock or ban me. As Gemmill pointed out if you had basic intelligence, then banter could exist here, you don't though so even posting is a waste of time for you. :lol: . You've now resorted to giving out ultimatums on a messageboard. The way you react to me leads me to beleive you're really the school kid on this board. Ive always complied to the forum rules so i see no reason why i should be banned. Stop crying and man up little boy :lol: You're shit though and boring, reading your posts is an actual effort. Every time you post, I and I'm sure many others think "why does this person exist?".

Do they? Have you got links to show this? I know Liverpool were only offered 2100 in the league at the end of last season which has nothing to so with the size of our away support as we have always sold out down there including a much larger allocation for a Sunday FA Cup tie at Fratton kicking off at 6pm (surely the most ludicrous mucking about of fixtures by TV in years). Sunday at 6pm? thats not that bad we had 5000 at Watford on a winter Wednesday at 7.45pm Liverpool's away support has been alright for a good few years, you could say even since Souness left, but so it should be, Liverpool have more support in some parts of the country than home teams, I think there are easily as many Liverpool glory hunters, as there are Man Utd, but obviously Man Utd have the bigger local support. Numerically I'd never knock their away support. However for a team who are labelled "provinicial", taking 5,000 to places like Wigan and Watford in the League Cup is phenomenal, but we'll never get the praise we deserve. No one else would take 5,000 there for those fixtures other than teams within 40 miles of those two towns. At least you can debate away support with Liverpool, Man Utd, Celtic fans etc.... but Tottenham fuckin Hotspur, do me a favour.

Do they? Have you got links to show this? I know Liverpool were only offered 2100 in the league at the end of last season which has nothing to so with the size of our away support as we have always sold out down there including a much larger allocation for a Sunday FA Cup tie at Fratton kicking off at 6pm (surely the most ludicrous mucking about of fixtures by TV in years). thats the thing, he hardly ever has any links or any sufficient evidence to back up the things he types. He gives us these vital statistics, sprinkles some numbers on top and WOLAH we now have Stevie's make beleive facts. Some of you (as much as it pains me to say) actually come up with some pretty decent arguments but that guy is a complete joke. I've countered everything you've said (with evidence) you boring mug. Ban this cock or ban me. As Gemmill pointed out if you had basic intelligence, then banter could exist here, you don't though so even posting is a waste of time for you.

That was it. The league Cup 2001 they beat Chelsea reserves at Anfield in the 3rd round, then their next 5 games, including the final are against football league opposition. If that is not an indication of how lucky they are then I don't know what is. They even ended up against lower league opposition in the League Cup Final of 1995.

Exactly, a Tottenham fan defending their attendances to the Newcastle fans, is like a Fulham supporter defending theirs to Man Utd supporters. Kingdawson "offline"

Firstly why did only get 34,000 against Boro the other night then with tickets on general sale right up till kick off. That's what Boro reckon. Why do clubs like Man Utd, us and Southampton get 3,000 then. Perhaps it's because Spurs are such a big attraction and they want more home end tickets. (We really need a wanker smiley for occasions like this) Oh i get it now. So by getting 34,000 in one home league fixture it automatically means we "can't even fill 36,000 for a League game half the time" :roll: So you made a false statement going on what "boro reckon". No doubt you're lying again. Im guessing this is just another case of you putting some random attendence numbers together then throwing some random teams into the mix and then going on as if it was a fact. The capacity of White Hart Lane since April 1998 36,260 98/99 13 gates under 36,000 - average gate 34,174 - 99/00 10 gates under 36,000 - average gate 34,912 - 28,107 v Newcastle 00/01 9 gates under 36,000 - average gate 35,195 01/02 8 gates under 36,000 - average gate 35,001 02/03 6 gates under 36,000 - average gate 35,897 03/04 13 gates under 36,000 - average gate 34,876 04/05 10 gates under 36,000 - average gate 35,926 05/06 3 gates under 36,000 - average gate 36,074 06/07 8 home games played 4 under 36,000 - which is equal to "half the time you can't even get 36,000" So since the start of 98/99 there have been 160 games at WHL 76 haven't been at capacity, so me saying you can't get 36,000 half the time is entirely true. Of the tickets Boro returned 1109 according to "Martin Jol". They all went on general sale, no one wanted them, which is why those seats remained empty, not enough demand, not a big enough club to fill 36,000 for an important league game against Middlesborugh.

Firstly why did only get 34,000 against Boro the other night then with tickets on general sale right up till kick off. That's what Boro reckon. Why do clubs like Man Utd, us and Southampton get 3,000 then. Perhaps it's because Spurs are such a big attraction and Pompey want more home end tickets to meet higher demand. (We really need a wanker smiley for occasions like this)

Horseshit. Was it 1992 or 2001, you got to the FA Cup Final without playing one top flight team? No one could deny, even Yozza himself, the CL victory of 2005, was probably the luckiest individual event in modern life.

Where did I lie school boy? Point out my lies. I've never been one to advocate banning cunts, but if this cunt kingdawson was funny I'd " ", but he's not. He doesn't know anything about football, and there has to come a time where people get banned, not necessarily for abuse, but for being a nobhead.

I think you need to read up on the Premier League regulations. 7. Unless otherwise agreed by the Board or between the Clubs, each Home Club shall make available to its Visiting Club: 7.1 3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the Home Club’s ground is less than 30,000, such number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent. of its ground capacity; and, whether or not that allocation is taken up, 7.2 tickets for a minimum of 10 per cent. of the Home Club’s disabled spectator accommodation. That's all well and good Rushian, so why do Man Utd, Southampton and Newcastle get 3,000 tickets for that fixture?

It gets even better 2,000 tickets YES TWO THOUSAND, and they have to put the cunts on general sale UNBELIEVABLE. They'd have you believe their away support was as good as ours, Liverpool (who bring all 3,000 here 90% of the time), and Man Utd. It doesn't take a mathematical genious to see the numerical pattern that is occuring here, the technical term for it is shit away support of small club syndrome. YSIFS and then owwlld Rick 'e dahhn the trick, scored the best gowwwwwwwwl your ever sawwwwah, and nahhh in eyetie sevvun wiv Dyvid Pleats eeelevun, we're gonna it once mooooahh!! http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/C5B86EEF-CB35-4038-9FB6-BB7642DF964D/26743/Coventry_FACF_1987_L.jpg

Ruel Fox wasn't crap you idiot. That season we won 6 in a row at the start, he was absolutely class. I can't honestly for the life of me understand why we let him go. Not once did he let the toon down, in fact he was a fuckin good player. Remember that game when Acuna and JAMIE MCCLEN, were up against Vieira and Edu, and they never got a kick. Acuna was world class that night, and he I think he suffered because of Robson's love of Gary Speed. My favourite crap Newcastle player, people will debate whether he was crap, but he was, it's Warren Barton. His technical limitations would make Andy Griffin look like Cafu in those stakes, but he had the heart of an absolute lion, he took loads of stick, but he battled through, and he got the fans on side at the end because he showed how committed he was and how much he loved the toon every time he pulled on the shirt. I loved Acuna also, we let him go due to his mother being ill at home or something so he went to play in a league in or near his country i think? Dabs love him! Titus, I just can't hate him. That big dumb look on his face just makes me want to pat him on the head and tell him everything will be ok (the put him down). That was only part of the reason. Robson basically packed his bags for him.