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Wondering if any player would be reluctant to make the move to Man City this summer, with the 115 charges hearings due and the potential of possible relegation?  Bookies have them at 25/1 so they're covering their arses, so I'd expect players moving there to do the same.  Bruno needs to get a buy-back clause to us inserted if he does go 

Meaningless game but feel sorry for those who paid to go and those who chucked £4.99 to watch online 

I know it was a low key friendly today, but had another good game.  Having a proper pre-season with Howe will hopefully work wonders for him - Looking forward to see how this lad progresses next season. 

9 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said:

Christ my first impressions of him were completely wrong, what an absolute and utterly fantastic human being he is. If you can't love such a great lad you'll never love anything. 

 

 

 

Same!  Knew the kid had ability but thought his attitude, albeit seen from afar, looked very suspect. How wrong I was an will happily admit it.  Top Top player and great person.  Quite a deep thinker as too as the recent overlap episode showed.  Potential future NUFC captain imho.

3 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

PBG

Wow

1 hour ago, tgarve said:

There will be plenty when the prices are jumping 30% for people who were on the 10 year deal

Be more than 30%: £467 -> £764 (assuming another 5% average price hike next season) so that'll be near on a 64% increase for a seat in the gallowgate for those coming off the "10 year" deal

2 hours ago, Mattoon said:

 

Now we've got our own media gaslighting us

Likely some Manc twat in Reach's sports hub probably wrote the tweet, several people including me called them out on it and now the tweets been deleted 

2 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Will the likes of Dummett, Hayden and Hendrick still be in contract this summer?

Hayden contracted until summer 2026 

2 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

I think a 6 month covenant has a good chance of being seen as reasonable, especially if it was restricts to premier league clubs.

 

if it was 6 months notice and 12 months restriction or worldwide then it may well be seen as restricting his ability to work

It may not even be the entire premier league, just "direct competitors" within it i.e the cartel 6, Villa, & West Ham possibly.  As you say have to be careful with RC's as they can be challenged if deemed unreasonable  

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

 

I don't want to give people anxiety here, but didn't Liverpool try to buy Caicedo for over £100m last summer, and then go for a much cheaper Endo instead? Did they spend much after that? Also, clubs can still sell players at the beginning of the window to free up funds? And also, there is an amortization system, so how much does it really affect this years books? Don't know that much about it.

 

 

 

True, but them selling relies on a club having the financial clout being able to buy - I see something similar to January, unless there's 3rd party intervention (Saudi clubs possibly) The cartel 6 clubs (possibly excluding man city) will struggle to offload players before the FFP/PSR deadline to "smaller" clubs as they will be restricted in their spending until july 1st.   

2 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

Basically means that we can "lose" £105m/3 years (current system) plus about £80m (estimate) from selling Bruno.

 

That £80m to spend isn't on the transfer fee, it's the transfer fee split over the length of the contract, up to five years. So if we signed someone for £50m on 5-year contract it would only "cost" £10m/year plus wages.

 

Added complication is that they're potentially changing the £105m/3yr thing anyway....

Yeah its £105m losses over three years allowing for £30m/year owner "investment" without it the allowable losses are only £15m over a rolling 3 year period. The new changes to squad costs as a % of turnover are much worse as it doesn't allow (at least it looks like that to me with the current information out there) for that investment, just purely what the club "earns" 

32 minutes ago, The Fountain said:

Who can afford to pay decent money for ESR though? The clubs who will be interested can't splash out because of FFP.

This is the problem the sly 6 have now because of FFP/PSR, outside of themselves I cant seen any other team taking their "cast-offs" for big money anymore, they've created a monster now they may have to live with the consequences ...

3 hours ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

 

Cant see us filling 70,000 every week mind, especially considering we would have to increase the away allocation, and i cant see teams like Burnley, Sheff Utd, Southampton, Wolves, Fulham, Bournemouth etc would bring 5/6k.

 

I think 65,000 would be the sweet spot and could probably fill that more regularly. 

 

If we have a stadium which is too big and were not filling it, we still have to pay stewarding, catering etc plus it will look awful on tv.

 

 

We don't need to increase the away allocation, for league games anyway, not if we don't want to - rules stipulate that its 3k minimum for stadia at 30,000+,10% of capacity otherwise 

5 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Realising that's a massively smaller percentage of his pay than mine is to my mortgage

Its about 15% of his weekly wage - same amount a week I spend on beer!!  

1 hour ago, ikri said:

 

The big loophole here is that infrastructure costs aren't included in FFP analysis but income from selling that infrastructure is included.  In theory, our owners could give the club the money to buy Newcastle Race Course, which wouldn't impact our FFP figures, and then a month later the club could realise that they had no reason to own a race course and sell it to PIF for £500m and solve our FFP issues for a decade.  No one really noticed the blatant flaw in the rules until Chelsea tried this with the hotel.

Yeah any kind of infrastructure, something like a stack fanzone perhaps 

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

These new rules are terrible for us, no allowance for owner investment and IF related party transaction rules remain we are stuck on the outside looking in. 

Think we need to see the actual detail, there were two votes apparently, one of which was unanimous.  I can't see the likes of ourselves, Villa, Forest & West Ham going for this with those restrictions in place - odd.

7 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

That's just wages. Need to add amortisation costs also.

My bad, I assumed the "staff costs" on the accounts would have included purchases & salaries - must be sailing close to the wind then if you include amortisation cost on top ?

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Out of interest, based on our turnover last season, what would we have been able to spend ?

74.1%, down from 94.6% the previous season - they're expecting similar for this season iirc.  All good for premier league, but high for UEFA's more stringent 70% cap 

Just now, Jack27 said:

Supposed to but AS hasn’t been able to the last few times so her shares have diluted slightly

Yeah, her holding is just under 7% now iirc 

21 minutes ago, Ben said:

I'll be pissed of if this bloke takes any of our players this summer 

You'd hope as part of any deal in ManU getting DA early they'd put in some "non-compete" clauses for our players and potential incoming transfers for at least the summer window, if indeed he goes before the summer. 

5 hours ago, Pancrate1892 said:

St James 52,000+

SOS 49,000

Riverside 35,000

Darlington arena 25,000+

Gateshead international 12,000

Kingston park 10,000+

 

Daft ones

Murrayfield 67,000+

Elland road 38,000

 

Any others? 

 

Maybe we could rename ourselves 'newcastle rangers' for a couple of seasons and go on a tour around the different venues 

Magpie Rangers - we have a ready made song for that 

6 hours ago, OpenC said:

Grace Donnelly has been putting in some heroic performances that you wouldn't expect of her recently, really commanding, but she was very hesitant and uncharacteristically glued to her line yesterday - not sure if they were drilled to expect a particular threat so not to play sweeper as she usually does - but you could see the whole back line was operating differently to usual, right from the opening exchanges. Ultimately there's no room for sentiment if you want to progress, I guess - I have no problem with Langley showing faith in GD though.

 

I wasn't close enough to judge how she did with the second yesterday but it looked like it all started from an absolute hospital ball from someone in midfield, Boddy I think? It looked like none of them dealt with the situation particularly well after that was given away.

 

I can't really recall it but I feel like the first came from us cheaply surrendering possession over on the right wing as well.

 

 

 

Aye true, the second came from an awful giveaway in midfield  (couldn't make out who it was because of the shadow of the main stand) - literally passed to the # player under zero pressure.

Seemed to me the occasion got to them yesterday unfortunately, a trait that's plagued the men's team for decades.  

55 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

 

And I know I keep saying it (I have every time I've watched her), a terrible goalkeeper. A new one needs to be the first upgrade this summer. Swap the two keepers round today and the score would have been different. 

They signed an international keeper in January - dont know if she's been given any gametime yet?

18 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

We’re 2 1/2 years into the five and look to be completely hamstrung by financial rules. How are we going to do what he says in the next 2 1/2 years. We’re currently 10th and knocked out of all cup competitions. 

I read that as within the next 5 years from now, pushing more to the pessimistic end of their initial assessment of major success within 5-10 years but still on target

5 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

I don't understand how it's woke or whatever btw? It's a design choice. It's like if Adidas decided to put the middle bit of our badge on a new shirt somewhere but changed the colour of the border to fit with the colour scheme of the shirt. 

 

A load of bollocks for meatheads to fume over. Starmer is fucking pathetic for jumping on it n'all. 

 

 

 

So you'd be happy if Adidas changed a little bit in the middle of our badge, like changing the colour of the black stripe to red?  It's a national shirt and all about the identity