Unbelievable

Rejected or stalled, as per the ruling. what makes you think this is particularly difficult to prove for any club? They would know what deals they have submitted for ratification, which were rejected outright or lowered without justification/evidence (again, as per the ruling) and which were stalled unreasonably (longer than 2 months I believe as per the ruling). Any club could have such a list drawn up within the hour if pressed.

Mate, I think all most level headed Newcastle fans would want to see is to have our owners allowed to use their financial might to create an even battle field. Just cap yearly revenue on footballing cost so that each club has the same limitations and it comes down to who runs the best operation. It’s more or less how the F1 budget cap works and after a few years in existence lo and behold the competitiveness is insane and all teams are making a profit (self sustainability).

I don't think this case has that much bearing on the 115 case tbh, considering those breaches were before this APT nonsense came in IIRC?

Wasn't aware of that. What is the timeline for this. Also, in light of this, seems even more absurd that the PL would want to rush some band aid patches through in the next forthnight.

I don't think this is as absurd as you make it sound. The tribunal found that a) the PL created rules that by their very design/intent are anti-competitive, b) found that the PL did not apply its own rules diligently (stalling on commercial deals and not providing evidence for their decisions) and c) that if sponsorship deals are to be subject to FMV, then so should owner loans have been all this time, meaning more clubs would have fallen foul to PSR and should have been docked points (which wll be of particular interest to those clubs who have been docked points in recent years). Also there is the matter of lost revenue that City can sue for. It's not just a matter of patching up the wording of a few rules to make this go away. There are holes in the hull of their PSR ship now and clubs will seek to benefit from this either by seeing decisions reversed, suing for lost revenue or pushing for the rules as they should have lawfully been to be applied consistently and retrospectively.

I said the club (!) knows. Don’t you think the club will know what sponsorship deals they put forward or what happened to them..?

It absolutely does. For weeks you’ve been going on that nothing would come of this, surely it was a PL win as there was silence, etc. You’ve been proven spectacularly wrong and still you keep downplaying the significance of City shooting massive holes in this dodgy regulation framework that, as per the judgement, was specifically designed to be anti-competitive in parts, and therefore unlawful.

You don’t think Man City and NUFC have that proof? In City’s case we even know 3 sponsorships were rejected, one after stalling their own procedure unlawfully for 12 months.

And the way the rules were applied…

How hard can it be to show the loss of a sponsorship deal that was (as we now know) unlawfully refused? Hope Man City, us and others affected sue the PL for the missed revenue, and all clubs (which the PL effectively is) needing go foot the legal bill and penalties, then this FMV nonsense would soon stop.

Absolutely preposterous. If that were the case they would have stopped Man U and the likes years ago. It was all fine with American owners

Wait, are you telling me TheBrownBottle has been talking shit all this time..?

It is, well it was

I suppose a point here isn’t the end of the world, but feels like Gordon lost us two vital points to keep us in touch of top four here.

Everybody scores against these in ET, come on!

Fucking ref

Bruno and Joelinton have been very good today

Ah fuck man, we’re not scoring if this game lasts until midnight

I appreciate Gordon’s work rate, but he’s by no means a (reserve) center forward

Gordon ffs

Everything breaks down once we get into the penalty area

Oh Gordon, could have played Miggy in

Fuck, thought that was in

Your wish is my command

This game is exhausting as fuck