Unbelievable

Damnit

Not at the moment..

We've slowed down a little these past 5 minutes and are handing over the initiative to Spurs..

Spurs should have scored there.. Excellent save by Harper.. Good match so far.

Keane claiming a pen, but it never was..

Our defense looked all over the place there... Phew..

Excellent shot by Barton.. We should be in front.

We are playing well!!

Corner to us..

So unlucky..

Beye hit the bar!!

Decent start. Owen dropping deep it seems..

COME ON!!!!

Van Basten's stunning goal in the '88 European championship's final. Being a dutch boy of the age of 12 (at the time) I felt on top of the world and I fear it will be a long time before football will make me feel like that again, if ever.. Close personal second: Feyenoord (my hometown team) winning the Uefa Cup in their own stadium in 2002 just days after the political murder of Fortuin had shocked the nation and Rotterdam where he lived. Most surreal atmosphere ever.. As far as Newcastle is concerned, the best atmosphere and win I can remember witnessing first hand was an FA Cup match vs Chelsea in snowey conditions where Kluivert got the winner with a great header. God, how I would love for Newcastle to finally win something major. It would be absolutely amazing in a city so footballminded as Newcastle!

You never thought what Henry did was a bit special?

Good, good..

Fulham still have us, Sunderland, Derby and Reading to play, so they will consider themselves still in the running to avoid relegation.. FT now.. Fuck..

Watcha laughing at?

Oh fuck.. Fulham score..

Fulham v Everton still 0-0 after 52 minutes. Come on Everton!

Don't you think the value of the approach is dependent on the quality and knowledge of the person using it, or is it valuable all by itself? It is and that's why good coaches, scouts, and development policies are essential. The 4 corners of development scale is just a tool to aide coaches, scouts and to determine development policies. This scale in the wrong hands is pretty much wasted. But then so is talent and indeed whole football clubs. Anyway I posted it up as a means for myself and others if they wanted to, to try an alternative way to assess our players and maybe even potential new signings and to also raise the level of debate on here in these areas that usually ends up "he's s***, end of" or "he's great, end of". Using the scale properly with all the associated support material (which I don't have sadly) I think a reasonable level of certainty can be gained from it where assessment of players are concerned and with it, what the team may require other than the forum standard "lets sign (insert player) here, he's good" type analysis. For example if there is a clear pattern showing that the players grouped together are weak psychologically, or technically, this may show fans where the management need to work on or what type of player needs brought in because it's about 'type' and not 'who' you know which is a mistake many past managers of ours have made. Owen for example was a who and not a type. In short we should never have signed him as he wasn't the right type of player for that team nor the manager who bought him. I mean there is a thread about Defoe where people are saying we should have bought him, yet for all we know, Defoe here may not work or be any better than Martins. The 4 corners scale could actually identify whether Defoe would work here or not. I guess I'm saying look further than the front of your nose and think about the game, our players and our club and maybe then we'd be in a better position to understand it and the many facets that make it up rather than what we've all become today, ignorant, myopic, fickle bastards who wouldn't know their arse from their elbow. Or not. Fair enough.

Don't you think the value of the approach is dependent on the quality and knowledge of the person using it, or is it valuable all by itself?

Him buying out his contract is approx the same amount as what a club would have to pay for him though. If his wage were 20K a week it would be worthwhile but his wages are so high it makes buying out not really an option when the release clause in his contract for about £6 million. Who knows? What if a club comes knocking and say to him they will have him for free if he pays out his contract with us? Or they pay the sum in the clause if he will wave his signing on fee and possibly accept lower wages than he's on with us.. If it's one of the big 4, I believe he would jump at the chance..

True, and he probably will, so it's not in our hands.. Why would he stump a shed load of his own money up when a club who wants can buy him £6 million. He would be foolish to do such thing. Or he could return to Liverpool or another big club who might be interested in a free? He could get the buyout money back through a signing on fee. He doesn't look happy or inspired with us, I can see how his decision will be based on things other than money.

True, and he probably will, so it's not in our hands..