KaKa

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Why do Chelsea and Arsenal fancy him now?

Fancy him 

Lets see if anyone actually buys him.

Just now, HTT II said:

Because he’s a cunt with a face you’d love to slap with a wet fish constantly. That and he flatters to deceive constantly. 

Yes, that as well

However, I think it's because if you actually watch his overall game it leaves a lot to be desired.

So he can stay at Palace and do whatever it is he's doing there. Well done to him.

3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

He's had one disappointing goal return for a winger in an average side since he was 23.

 

7, 9, 10, 4, 11 & 14 will match up with any winger in the country. Bizarre take.

Why is he still at Palace since he was 23 then?

1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Wilfried Zaha.

Hate his game. Good for him that he figured out how to score in his late 20s though. Well done.

3 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Zaha has stuck Kaka's posts up on the dressing room wall as motivation

 

Still hate Zaha's game and would never have him in my team. Send this one to him too.

Hope all the people that wrote him off because of his goal record are enjoying his performance.

Dani Ceballos?

8 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

Can't believe this discussion is STILL going. We probably have a set budget as a ballpark number but we would never let journalists and the whole world to know the number. Transfers been reported as just the upfront payment has never been a thing.

 

Disappointed in you Kaka, day ruined.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

Despite reports in the Athletic today, if Chelsea were to sign PEA and Zaha it wouldn't surprise me if Pulisic was made available for loan.

Especially because he is really pushing for a move to play regularly in the lead up to the World Cup. I agree.

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

So obvious that they couldn't stick a couple of sentences into weeks of summer reporting to clear things up? 

 

The case has been the same all summer, just as it was in January. We'll have a rough budget, but if a game changing player becomes available at a price we like, we'll do the deal. Talk of a strict budget has been blown out of the water in consecutive transfer markets. 

I don't disagree with this bit. However, I do think that such moves probably impact other business. And so after Isak, I don't think it's a coincidence we are largely focusing on loans the rest of the way now.

1 minute ago, xLiaaamx said:

Would think we need to hear something concrete before the end of tonight if we're gunna sign do anything now 

Why do people keep saying this sort of thing?

Deals happen right up to the end of the window, some of which come out very late on. The window closes 11pm on Thursday.

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

Why did they not just report that then?

Probably because they thought it was obvious? 

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

If it's ambiguous, isn't it a journalists job to make it clear that they're talking about the upfront, rather than the overall fee?

 

The same journalists have said thst nothing was ever confirmed by the club, so I'd wager theyvd just got it wrong. Like they did in January.

 

 

It's not ambiguous. Never understood why anyone would think it was for whole fees.

If you have a budget for a transfer window, it will be for how much goes out during that window, which will be down to what is paid upfront.

3 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

I know about structuring and how that works very well. I still maintain that the budgets the journalists were reporting on, were for overall transfer fees. Edwards, Hope and Downie have been pushing all Summer on money not being available.

Okay, well if so, then they were wrong.

However, I think people that thought there was no budget were wrong too.

Just now, et tu brute said:

That's not the way the journalists were putting it across though when they were reporting on it.

They didn't put it across any way specifically. Think people interpreted the whole thing wrong and got wound up about it.

The whole point of structured deals is to do more with the budget. So that £90 million budget or whatever it was can go a hell of a long way depending on how the deals done are structured.

Pope's deal for example was £10 million, but we only paid £3 million this summer, so only £3 million would have come off the budget.

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I doubt we would disclose any budget to journalists.

Yeah, you can doubt it if you want that's fine.

But I think if we actually looked at how much was paid upfront on each deal, we'll likely find it wasn't too far off the budget multiple sources quoted at the start of the window.

When the budget was mentioned was that not in relation to how much was paid upfront on fees?

People keep taking full fees into account when discussing the budget, when it is very unlikely that is how things are being calculated.

Sanches, Soler and Ruiz were all in the last year's of their contract. Was hoping we'd be in for at least one of those.

Just now, Sean said:

No-one "has" to argue - you are all just choosing to ffs 

Nah, I think something in us won't allow us to do otherwise until this damned window is shut! 

Just now, duo said:

Eddie has all but confirmed that business is done

No he hasn't. He said we are focusing on loans

Though he left a bit of wiggle room for a possibility for a permanent transfer, though unlikely.

Just now, Kanji said:

after we make our signings ? 

Yes, of course! 

God please ... close the window. Just close it now in fact.

So we no longer have to argue about budgets and player positions. 

Just now, Cronky said:

 

That is the biggest exaggeration in the history of the Universe.

I was going to respond to that earlier, but couldn't even muster up the effort tbh

Just now, Kanji said:

With the injuries stacking up id happily take some squad additions 

Yeah for sure. Loans won't do any harm.

Take a flier on some talents that didn't quite click at their current clubs.

We've got such a great manager that gets the best out of players that it could work very well for us.

59 minutes ago, tom1988 said:

Bank Holiday weekend, overtime is expensive!

Good point actually.