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Manchester City have tabled an £8million bid for Newcastle's unhappy goalkeeper Shay Given.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1108744/City-8million-bid-Newcastles-Given.html?ITO=1490

In all honesty, I really can't see Shay going to Citeh. Could sign a lengthy deal, still win Jack Shit and be no further forward. I believe he genuinely loves this club, the only way I can see him leaving is for a club with genuine aspirations for a title or a cup, and with Hughes, Citeh couldn't even beat Forest ffs. If one of the big 4 comes in, fair enough, he has a chance of some glory, but at Citeh, especially in the time of his career he's in, what's the point?

Joining a club of similar stature to us makes no sense. He's a family man, his kids go to school up here and he loves it. The man will only leave for a genuine shot of glory in the 4 years or so he has left at the top, otherwise I reckpn he might just stay put. Better the devil you know........

Not a transfer rumour But

 

Owner Mike Ashley is considering a dramatic boardroom reshuffle at Newcastle which could see Dennis Wise lose his high-profile job as executive director responsible for player recruitment. (Daily Express)

One of the Sales Assistants at Sports Direct has offered to do it for the minimum wage

This is the first thread I have started on here, but with the lack of information coming from the club itself, does anyone seriously think that we might be saddled with Clown Kinnear longer than first thought?

It has crossed my mind. The lack of communication, the "manager", Barry Ferguson, Leroy Lita!!!

On the other side of the argument, 100 Million plus is a huge price to pay to piss a few people off!! We'd be worth a lot less in the championship and I reckon that would make us a more attractive Long Term investment.

Do you need a hand to write your resignation letter?

Plus there's no mention of what type of deal they want to do with Ferguson. If he's out of contract and has indicated that he may move elsewhere, it may be a loan deal. I think any players we buy will be the pick of Wise and his cronies,whilst the loan deals will be JFK type players.

If this happens, it's for the best really, as it would suggest that Joe will be sent on his way at the end of the season. JFK doesn't really tie in with Ashley's so called vision of buying young talent and nurturing it, so it would be silliness to let him blow silly amounts of cash on crazy gang type clodders

44 and safe, with a big run of losses

When he runs Thailand as corruptly as Thaksin and fucks off with all the money we know where he's coming!!!

I think Kinnear will be here for as long as Ashley is.

 

That was always going to be the case though wasn't it? No decent manager will take the job knowing they'll likely be out as soon as new owners come in.

 

Of more concern to me is this steadily rolling deadline, which leads me to doubt whether we'll be sold at all. The longer this drags on, the more relegation becomes a real possibility.

If we're not sold before the end of the January transfer window, I don't think we will be at all. No new owner is going to risk shelling out £250 million for a club that could potentially be in the Championship come next season. This has to be something that Ashley realises too. If takeover talks have indeed stalled, he has to take stock, sit down with all concerned and see what the absolute minimum requirement would be in order to make a damned good attempt at avoiding relegation. If that means throwing shitloads of money at a more capable interim manager then so be it.

My own personal feeling is that in order to preserve his investment, Ashley has to ensure that the correct structure is in place to preserve premiership status. This will likely involve taking the club off the market, either backing Kinnear to the hilt in terms of investment, or bringing in someone on a 2 year deal with the promise of a good bit of cash to spend in January, because if he doesn't we'll go down no doubt about it.

Just from listening to him, I don't think even Kinnear would stand for Wises's meddling in transfer dealings, so we may even find ourselves in the position come January where the interim manager walks out for the self same reason as Keegan.

The only other possibility is that Ashley has hated us from the start, and wants us to go down in total ruin so he can have a laugh with his mates, and isn't too arsed at the prospect of losing a few quid. Because if we go down I could quite easily see him refinance the debt within the club, getting his £100m or so back from that and selling us to some twat for a tenner!!!

Just found this on soccerlens: Nigerian bid to take over the toon

Hello Friend,

On behalf of my family, I would like to seek your advice and guidance, if you could perhaps assist us invest some funds into any profitable investment opportunities in your country.

We would be delighted if you could please provide detailed information and procedures for investment. We would review your proposition and enter into partnership agreement with you or your company if only your proposition is satisfactory and acceptable.

Firstly, I do not know if you are very familiar with my family case with the present civilian Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria under President Olusegun Obasanjo. Following the sudden death of my late father - (Gen.Sani Abacha) on the 8th of June 1998 (Former Head of State and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria), I and members of my family have been thrown into a state of utter confusion, frustration and hopelessness. Our accounts in banks in Switzerland and other European countries have been frozen illegally by the Federal Government of Nigeria, allegedly us that the funds were siphoned away while my late father ruled Nigeria from 1993 until his sudden death in 1998. Our family lawyers are still on the case at the Supreme Court fighting to have some of the money returned to us.

Pls check - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/2492425.stm

We have deliberated and resolved that part of our family substantial financial resources presently in a Security and Trust outfit in Europe be re-directed to you for a profitable investment in your country under the supervision of an able man power as we hope that you will be able to provide the needed services as regards the investment and management of the financial resources for the betterment of my family in good faith without prejudice.

Furthermore, legal contracts, non-disclosure agreement documents, and partnership agreements shall be drafted in association with this transaction by our family attorney only when I am assured and convinced of your credibility and security of this brief under your a bsolute control. Thereafter, arrangement would be expedited to move the funds over to you for further action to be taken by your good self on our behalf and for the benefit of our both families.

I thank you and look forward to a successful business relationship with you. I trust that you will enjoy and benefit from this opportunity to work with us. Though, I do not know you in person but I still maintain my father’s philosophy that business is people and contacts. Business is always based on trust and open mindedness and it is on this note I act.

I await to hear from you.

Yours truly,

Mohammed Abacha

House #4, Sani Abacha Crescent, Nasarawa G.R.A, Kano State, Northern Nigeria. Tel: +234 80-54004232

I reckon Ashley must want £400M for the sheer comedy value of the place!!!

a bit of an incentive

http://www.whitehartpain.com/2008/09/wise-and-poyet-in-if-we-lose-to.html

Lets hope the players hate the cock eyed dwarf as much as we do. More likely scenario is Wise and Poyet in for us tbh. FFS this time last year they were playing catch up in league one, now they're behind most of the gossip at two of the biggest clubs outside the top four. And what have they achieved - not a fucking thing. As Greavsie used to say "Football's a funny old game"

Todays BBC Gossip - Mike Ashley has lined up Kenny Dalglish as the next Newcastle Manager 

So by that reckoning Ruud Gullit will be back in a job for our inaugral season in the Championship

I'm not saying we're too good to go down, but bearing in mind Mike Ashley's already invested the thick end of £230million, he either has buyers in mind, or he's trying to prove a point to us and say look - no one wants to buy the club so it's his way or the high way. Either way he has to protect his investment, and as a championship club we wouldn't be worth 10% of what he has currently paid. I'm sure we'll be fine!

Newcastle United bosses spotted in Dubai

 

Sep 16 2008 by Alan Oliver, Evening Chronicle

 

NEWCASTLE United’s big three of Mike Ashley, Dennis Wise and Tony Jimenez were yesterday spotted in Dubai – one of the places where they are hoping to sell the club.

 

But the word from all the financial institutions is that Ashley is going to find it difficult to sell United for a variety of reasons, including the credit crunch and the terrible state of affairs at St James’s.

 

I hear Ashley is countering that by calling in former Football League chairman Keith Harris, who has successfully brokered the selling of a couple of clubs lately.

 

I also heard from a top foreign manager yesterday, indicating he would be prepared to come to St James’s as Kevin Keegan’s successor.

 

But it looks as though that potential candidates will be few and far between after Ashley’s announcement on Sunday tea-time that he was going to sell the club.

 

Kevin Keegan is keeping his head down after Friday’s meeting with Ashley in London and he is taking a few days’ break in the Spanish sunshine.

 

In the meantime, all the United fans can do is to hang on the words of managing director Derek Llambias when he said at Newcastle Airport last Saturday night: “We might have something to say during the week.”

Yeah something along the lines of Mike's gonna sell up

Venables anyone? He' s available, experienced and if he was offered the post under the premise that any new owners may get rid, he would know the expectations from the start. If I'm honest though I think there may be buyers imminent. Would be very bad business practice if there's not, as leaving hughton in charge could end up with us in the relegation shite, and that would dramatically lower the value of the club, to the point where ashley would be lucky to get half what he paid for the club back, let alone the debt he's paid off. Just can't see what he gains from going public without a buyer in sight

Wouldnt be suprised to see Shearer along with heavy backers come in. Similar to quinn at Sunderland but with Shearer being manager

I could see wealthy backers wanting Shearer as a front in the Quinn mould, but I really don't know if he'd want to manage the club. But he's a football man, and I think if he was in charge of the day to day running of the club a la Quuinn, managers would get a chance because the fans would trust Shearer's judgement.

The biggest problem we have is if new owners are not quickly forthcoming we're pretty much screwed. The board's alleged choice of manager (Poyet) is not going to come as he knows he would likely be fired once Ashley's cronies are fired by new owners. The same could be said for any manager, I feel that Ashley may have no choice but to beg Keegan to come back, as no other manager is likely to want to take the job in the knowledge he'll possibly be out on his ear once the new owners come in.

The next couple of weeks are going to be very interesting. I'm sure there will be no shortage of takers for the club but I think Ashley is likely to want too much money. No one begrudges him making a profit but I think realistically if he can make a 10% profit on what he's spent he will have done well.

It wouldn't surprise me if he bought another football club either. Maybe he could do a deal with Wise's pal Ken Bates at Leeds

todays gossip column

 

Newcastle want Blackburn boss Paul Ince to be their new manager. (Daily Mirror)

 

But Rovers are convinced Ince will not leave Ewood Park. (Daily Express)

 

Newcastle owner Mike Ashley wants a new boss installed in time for Saturday's home game against Hull City. (The Sun)

 

Tottenham first-team coach Gus Poyet, Zenit St Petersburg boss Dick Advocaat and Russia coach Guus Hiddink are all under consideration for the Magpies post. (Daily Telegraph)

 

Ashley is set to watch the match against the Tigers from the St James' Park directors box, rather than his usual position in the stand alongside Newcastle fans. (Daily Express)  The same Ashley that always sits in the directors box at home games

Massive move in the betting for Poyet. He was trading at 8.0 last night on betfair and now 2.1, suggests an approach has been made.

Some of the bookies now have him odds on

Gus staying in Lane

Comments from Gus Poyet in response to questions about becoming KK's successor, as reported on Friday:

"When you are in England and you are lucky enough to be with one of the big teams you are always going to get speculation.

"I want to stay at Spurs, I want to stay with this manager, this group of players and this club because I'm very happy."

Happy days Wise's Pal staying put!

From Skunkers:

Here's the story why Keegan has left.

Last Friday Wise came to Keegan with Bastien Schweinstiger apparently signing, Keegan was happy with that, as he sanctioned the selling of Milner.

Then apparently Wise came back saying that he hadn't actually signed him, it had fallen through due Jiminez's interference. Keegan was fuming but was told there was still many targets in sights for the end of the window.

Keegan went to Arsenal not happy.

Monday morning Wise, Jiminez and Keegan meet again. Keegan was waiting for them to say such and such is signing. BUT NO.

It was a list of most of the key players of the squad with price tags next to them. Apparently Shay Given had a 10 million price tag and also Owen was on the list. Not only that Xisco et al were on the signing on list, Keegan said he didn't want any of them.

Keegan was furious and went mental. Wise said well its either you put up with what we are doing or you're "sacked". Keegan said well I'm sacked then and stormed off to Manchester.

Keegan didn't have any contact with Newcastle for awhile until he saw the statement, he then went to the LMA and told his side of the story.

Yesterday Derek Llmabas(sp?) went down to try and bring Keegan back but it failed and they instead sorted out compensation etc for Keegan leaving.

From Keegan's daughters other half.

Joey Barton!!!!! Thought of a half time "hairdryer" moment with Joey should get the team playing at full capacity. Knowing the lunacy that is often associated with our club it wouldn't surprise me if they came up with a spasmodic appointment like that!!

Ladbrokes have got Deschamps 3rd favorite now behind poyet and wise, be a deent stab i guess, but this Marcelino guy sounds about right. Fits in entirely with player recruitment - and he'll be a damn sight cheaper than any of the usual suspects.

Realistically it's going to be a foreigner or someone young/inexperienced, because any manager with proven experience/half a brain isn't going to want to have to answer to Dennis fuckin Wise given Keegan's experience

I heard that to sabotage the deal the white president of Deportivo sabotaged the flight by putting a load of Mackems in the cargo hold.

 

They could make a flm about that. Anyone think of a good name for it?

Glakes on a Plane!

Without wanting to pour any doom and gloom on this, if we sign any more argies to our small squad, I only have one thing to say - "World Cup Qualifiers"