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And yet , with all of my criticisms of him, I understand we have very little if any better than him. That's exactly why I'm saying we've regressed.

It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man What utter, utter nonsense. Did you not watch the North London derby? Yes. Is that all you've ever watched? Then how is it utter ,utter nonsense? I've watched Parker jump in studs up on more than one occasion, whilst I wouldn't describe him as "dirty" as Cattermole undoubtedly is, that is why I put "on occasion" in my post.

Still , I imagine when he retires, the producers of Strictly Come Dancing will be bombarding Scott with offers. Such a pirouette.

It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man What utter, utter nonsense. Did you not watch the North London derby?

It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man

Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non. Forget about other sides man. Its about what's best for England and who is best for England. If Parker, one of the best performing players for one of the best performing sides with critical attributes in a defensive and technical perspective, cannot get a game for England, then no-one can. Who do you think we are? What kind of team do you think we are? We are not Spain and never will be. We are England, a country with no real world-class players, but a country with many top-class players, who if selected right and sent out right, can compete. Your would X player get into X side is a daft point anyway. Would Alou Diarra get into the English side? Would Kuyt? Would Luiz? So my original point about how England have regressed you are now agreeing with. I've seen us have world class players, and indeed world class sides. Some have been mismanaged by the manager at the time. Even in 1990 and 1986 we went on to fairly successful tournaments in spite of the manager *tinhat on*, not because of him. Scott Parker , irrespective of him playing for the side that's 3rd in the league, should not be captain of the side.He probably wouldn't be playing if Wilshere was fit. Scott Parker is today's Ray Wilkins. And Daiarra and Kuyt would probably get into the England side. Luiz shouldn't get into any top side as a defender.

It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the fucking barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there???

Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non.

I'm not so sure, you can't always be planning for the future. If Scott Parker helps us progress in Euro 2012, which he might do, I'm all for it. As well as involving younger players obviously. Who mentioned planning for the future? I've rarely seen an England side as poor as the one now, and the fact that Scott Parker is the Captain of it,speaks volumes for me..it reminds me of when Graham Taylor was manager when we had the likes of Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas being regulars in the National side, and we wondered why we didn't perform well? I only wish the FA would give the manager's job to a younger man, don't know who, with a remit of general improvement until 2016/2018 and use the next 4 years doing exactly that...planning. What can any manager do unless we bring through better players? Spain and Germany aren't the best in the world because of their managers but because of the youth setups they implemented years ago. Until we sort ours out we'll constantly play the least technical and tactical football imaginable whoever the manager is. Which all, according to your post, would mean that with England being so poor at the moment, which you agree with with your last sentence, we haven't done much in the planning field since the so called "golden generation" came and flattered to deceive. Except we have had some decent U21 sides in the past 5 years. So I summise the managerial position is an important one. And I think to give it to Harry Redknapp wouldn't bode well for the future, and some of that is because of his age, I have to say. Will he be as keen to produce youngsters into the squad/side as readily as a younger guy would?

Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the fucking moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard.

I'm not so sure, you can't always be planning for the future. If Scott Parker helps us progress in Euro 2012, which he might do, I'm all for it. As well as involving younger players obviously. Who mentioned planning for the future? I've rarely seen an England side as poor as the one now, and the fact that Scott Parker is the Captain of it,speaks volumes for me..it reminds me of when Graham Taylor was manager when we had the likes of Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas being regulars in the National side, and we wondered why we didn't perform well? I only wish the FA would give the manager's job to a younger man, don't know who, with a remit of general improvement until 2016/2018 and use the next 4 years doing exactly that...planning.

I'm sure his mam on the right was the racist tram lady putting on a cockney accent to avoid detection. Yep, she's giving the Star of David daggers.

Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain.

Claudio Marangoni.

Looking at experienced cover for left wing. Has to be Welsh , pushing 40 and have been in the Manchester United team for over 20 years.

Rooney is a ridiculous choice purely because of his ban. Everybody knows what he can do, and to me a waste of a squad place.

John Peacock is an excellent bloke, he used to be one of my bosses 25 or so years ago in my YTS.

A hoax rapist of Mackems.

Walcott ffs. Barry ffs Even Phil Jones .

I'm with SSR. Holy or Graham should be in ahead of Campbell. And what is the point of selecting Rooney ?

Jacques Meoff.

Scott Sellars, incidentally is criminally under rated, he had a lovely left foot, and with Pedro and Rob Lee, helped create Andy Cole's goals feat .

Without a doubt.