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Put the money towards Ederson from Atalanta.

@John P

That does sound extremely useful tbf.

Just now, Crimson Cardigan said:

Osula? The guy who has never scored goals anywhere up to this point? Pedro is miles ahead of Osula currently and probably always will be. 

Pedro does look miles ahead, totally agree.

How many non-penalty goals did Pedro score last season? Will a forward with that kind of record be an effective stand in for Isak?

Just saying I'm not sure he would be. And for the money it would probably take to prize him out of Brighton.....

3 hours ago, simonsays said:

And if Isak picks up an injury?  Who do you play? Osula?  Gordon? 

 

 

 

I think that's my point though, I'm not sure Pedro does offer cover for Isak. He's goal scoring record (non penalties) was what? 4 or 5? 

I reckon Osula could that many, at least.

If I had to choose between Pedro and Ederson (Atalanta) I think I'd go for Ederson. He easily covers 6 & 8. Not sure where Pedro plays other than as a 10 and we don't even use that in our formations. There's absolutely no way our 3 CMs are gonna play all those games next season. What Miley does or doesn't do is yet to be seen (high hopes, personally).

We need quality starters for CB, CM and RW primarily. 

Is Guler not available for similar or less money?
 

Weren't we meant to be interested in him before he went to RM?

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Keeping as many young players "in the game" is fair enough imo.

 

25 in the squad. Allow 2-3 long-term injuries outside of that. 3-5 that need loans for some reason like Hayden. Anymore is too much imo. What's that 33?

When you put it like that then 33-35 does seem reasonable.

13 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Chelsea have largely always done this even in the Roman era - it was just semi sensible and done at a younger and cheaper age.  They used to keep players on 2 year contracts and keep loaning them out until the fee was decent. If they didn’t re-sign Chelsea would let them rot in the reserves so players kept re-signing.  This way they already have that angle covered. That’s what they were doing to Kenedy and Atsu. 
 

I think it’s definitely financial. The £60m+ fees don’t make sense. But a lot of the signings 10-40m are likely to rise in value and can be flipped.  
 

It’s not fully coherent and there will be some major losses. Nkunku.  The Sancho thing was a waste of money and time for example.  
 

I think football clubs should have a limit on players on the books over 21 years of age. Anymore than 35 you have to release them and pay their contracts in full. 

Think there should be a definite limit on youth players.
 

And I think 35 senior players is too many. Need to lower it so clubs can’t buy players just to loan them out. Talent should be spread throughout leagues, not a disproportionate amount of registrations held by a select few clubs.

Wonder if we are snooping around an Atalanta player but it’s not Scalvini….

I've seen plenty of games when Adeyemi couldn't find his arse with both hands let alone another Dortmund player anywhere near the opposition box.

It’s probably £45M + all sorts of add-ons.

Is he having an op this summer?

On 10/06/2025 at 19:55, Unbelievable said:

I disagree. Howe is their appointment for starters. They also sanctioned the players we got in. These people didn't come here by accident and were courted and supported by the club 100% when people in the media were expecting us to build a gallaticos 2.0 side due to untold riches. Howe and the players got us the cup and CL qualification, so it stands to reason to praise the owners for their football acumen and patience, rather than to fantasise about scenarios in which they would have deserved questioning and criticism. They have their hands behind their backs and still have us punching at a level most of us couldn't even contemplate as realistic three years ago, even regardless of ownership change.

I’ll start by saying I’m by no means unhappy with our owners.

Couple of points though. Didn’t the club go after Emery first?
Wasn’t it Amanda and Merdad rather than the Saudis who making those choices at the time?
I'm certain they all knew the PSR restrictions at the time so knew in advance we couldn’t go all Galacticos. 
 

My personal concern is not the willingness of the Saudis to fund us, it’s their inability to do anything in a timely fashion. Or think ‘outside the box’. 
 

Ederson > Ramsey

2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

It’s very frustrating.

I would imagine that such a hiring would require an approval from a particular key person/group and there’s the bottleneck right there.

The kind of decision where, if it doesn’t work out, would be very hard to pin it on someone else…..creates a certain reluctance in said key person/persons.

Given all the hype around Bardghji pre injury I hope we’re having a very serious look at him.

41 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

It's all from strong sources, and yes we are one of the leakiest clubs in the world. 

 

Obviously you can't work out each individual wage from the entire wage expenditure, but it's fairly easy to piece together when there are numerous reports from tier 1 sources about what each players wage is. 

That must near on untenable for everyone involved.

1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

Because he's stalling on a new contract and asking for £180,000 a week. He's currently on £25,000 a week. 

 

I don't know what he thinks he's done to deserve anywhere near that sort of money. 

 

I don't want any of these youngsters to go, but at the same time I'm happy for them to be sold if they overvalue their worth. It'll be a big PSR boon if he does leave. 

Love Froggy and his input but given he seems to know every intricate detail of all the financial deals, wages, pay offs, etc with Manu either, a) he’s speculating or quoting someone who’s widely speculating or, b) Manu is possibly one of the leakiest clubs in the world. 
 

No one can simply look ‘at the published expenditure’ and then accurately workout what each individual  player is earning. And if during negotiations players requests are leaked to the press at every juncture the club is gonna become a pariah. 

Mbeumo would be away for AFCON I presume. From the 21st of December. That could be an important factor in whether to sign him or not.

Antonio Silva

Arthur Vermeeren 

Oscar Gloukh

Roony Bardghji

If I was Delap I’d want a move to Villa.

I reckon he’d be the main man before long while not having the pressure of being the only striker.

1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

He is a good player, he just gets caught out of position far too much as a right wing back. Under Ten Hag in a back four he was one of our better performers. 

If/when Trippier leaves/retires I'd be more than happy if we signed Dalot as a replacement. 

There must be a way Amorim can get a tune out of him.

Just now, Froggy said:

 

He's really not mate. He's a liability.

He's good enough when he's in a Portugal shirt. He's a talented lad. I bet, if he moved on you'd see him playing well at a new club. 

I've even seen you say he's a good player, I'm certain of it! 

Something is badly off all over at ManU. You can't have that many decent to good players out of form for so long.

1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

I don't think Amorim does that at all. He talks about how it's his job to improve the team and that it ultimately lies with him and if he can't turn it around he will walk. He's also open and honest about how bad it is, because that's the truth. I know that's not how all managers are, and I'm not saying it's definitely the right way to be either but it's quite refreshing.

 

The thing with Ten Hag is that he was brought in to play the same football he played at Ajax. He tried it, it didn't work, and then he went back to playing the way Ole did. Literally within the first few games as well. He got pelters from opposition fans and the media for not having his own style of play and he ended up being very pragmatic to try and win games. He won us two trophies, but you didn't know how he was going to set up from one game to the next. I don't think those players had a clue what was going on.

 

Amorim has had ups and downs, but at least he has his way of playing. We can build an identity under him. We've improved in a lot of areas, but are still miserable in others. I do genuinely think a good RWB and a top striker makes a huge, huge difference though. I just want this season to end so we can find out.

Dalot is a good RWB.

Spurs were much more in it in the 1st half. After they scored, in the most un-Spursy way ever they successfully shut up shop. ManU didn't have the cutting edge to score.

I do honestly believe if Spurs needed a goal they would have got forward a lot more and do I think they'd have caused ManU problems if they had needed to.