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Bog standard defeat to one of the league's top sides. Raised our game through some extra effort, but utterly futile in the end. I could've written that before kick-off. I don't think anyone (including the manager) deserves any stand-out slagging, although Mapou should have done a lot better for the goal. Real shame that, because he was exceptional during the 90.

 

We're rubbish and they have a sweet shop of brilliant players to pick from. You could've put good money on the substitutes changing the game and they did. We were never, ever winning tonight, like.

 

Hey ho.

 

That's the thing the top teams are that far ahead of the rest that their reserves would beat any of the others, apart from a fluke of last season they nearly always win the cup competitions. The rest of us just don't have the squads to compete and never will. Football is f***ed they should just f*** these teams off into a league of their own with the rest of europes top ones

 

That doesn't describe City tonight, they were absolute dross and very beatable.

It seems every team Newcastle play is beatable to you and you make it sound like Newcastle can't loss against a beatable team Any team is beatable but is that guaranteed ? What are the odds for winning against a billion dollar team ?

 

Yeah Wullie, how dare you?! Know your place!

Yes it's very easy to say any team is beatable but at what odds ?

Bog standard defeat to one of the league's top sides. Raised our game through some extra effort, but utterly futile in the end. I could've written that before kick-off. I don't think anyone (including the manager) deserves any stand-out slagging, although Mapou should have done a lot better for the goal. Real shame that, because he was exceptional during the 90.

 

We're rubbish and they have a sweet shop of brilliant players to pick from. You could've put good money on the substitutes changing the game and they did. We were never, ever winning tonight, like.

 

Hey ho.

 

That's the thing the top teams are that far ahead of the rest that their reserves would beat any of the others, apart from a fluke of last season they nearly always win the cup competitions. The rest of us just don't have the squads to compete and never will. Football is f***ed they should just f*** these teams off into a league of their own with the rest of europes top ones

 

That doesn't describe City tonight, they were absolute dross and very beatable.

It seems every team Newcastle play is beatable to you and you make it sound like Newcastle can't loss against a beatable team Any team is beatable but is that guaranteed ? What are the odds for winning against a billion dollar team ?

As far as in concerned we were unlucky to lose the game and got unstuck by a super lucky fluke strike, there would have been only one team looking like was going to win it and it wasn't called Sunderland. End of.

Aalreet.

 

Right, that's the introductions over with. 

 

It's funny how people can see the same event yet interpret it so differently. I saw an un-motivated, largely passive-as opposed to passionate-group of players who weren't sure what they were meant to be doing, who created almost nothing in the box, who were played out of position in some cases and who were beaten to the ball or hassled off it time and time again by inferior players. Almost a carbon copy of last April. Once was bad enough (especially with what followed the next week) but twice is unforgivable. Aye, the players need to take some of the blame but, in the main, all of the above is down to Pardew and his coaching team.

 

The time to get rid has long passed.

Fu*k off for saying it was the same as last April. Your comparison is as desgraceful as the loss we had in April.

Comments like this make me wonder how delusional some fans are.

Sunderland deserved to win because they scored more goals than us. Doesn't matter that it was a wonder goal.

What a horrible approach to look at football. You conceded more goals then they did, so you deserve to lose. If I’m a neutral watching a game of football and I see a team give it their all in trying to break down a team but then other team break away and grab a late winner, am I f*** giving them any credit for a deserved win. I still refuse to believe Chelsea were worthy winners of the Champions League, they couldn’t ride their luck like that if they tried.

 

So, if by some miracle granted by the Gods of football, we managed to get to the final of a major competition where we played Man U and won by Cabaye hitting one of his specials into the top corner in the 89th minute, despite the fact that they spent 80 of the previous minutes battering us, you would be quite happy to hand over the trophy to Man U on the grounds that 'they played better than us'....??

 

Don't say you would because you will finally destroy any remaining credibility you still have as a poster.

Games are won by scoring goals - one Brian Clough, himself a prolific striker, once said 'it only takes a second to score a goal'..he also said that he scored as many with his backside as his head but it didn't matter because they all count as long as they go in.....

He is not saying he will not take the win. It's just that it is not deserved. You can tell the difference I hope !

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I'd argue all day and night that we didn't deserve lose yesterday, a draw would have been fair. We did play by far the better stuff but just couldn't break them down, the early goal meant we wouldn't be able to counter. Call me a WUM all you like but I'm not going to change my views on the back of one game. They beat us, great strike, fair play to them, but I'm not coming on here to slaughter our players.

Spot on. I honestly fail to understand how some people want to blame anyone just off load their frustration.

Helloooo, this is called football and sh*t like this can happen to any team. We were unlucky with their wonder goal. We did not deserve to lose because we played million times better than them but that is football for you sometimes the best team on the field don't get the results they deserve.

Hey little boys and girls don't panic. It was just a fluke wonder goal from their only meaningful attempt on goal in the 2nd half. We had a lot more shots on and off the goal. If only one of Cabaye or HBA shots had gone in we would be praising Pardew's name now.

We played much better than them and it was a combination of being unlucky and weakened centre backs that caused this bad scenario to happen.

There was the chance to take Martinez from Wigan last summer. He would have been comfortable with Ashley and the shoe string budget.

like Whelan would allow Ashley to nab his manager he hates him

If Martinez wanted then he would have come. I'm sure the compensation he would have had to pay easing going to be small though.

There was the chance to take Martinez from Wigan last summer. He would have been comfortable with Ashley and the shoe string budget.

 

Honestly don't think so. Same owners, same heartless players. We're going nowhere until Ashley leaves.

 

I would take Di Matteo over Pardew any day of the week and I would expect him to get more from the players than our current arsehole.

But Di Matteo couldn't motivate his team and at home too against a sh*t manager like Pardew few years ago

It wasn't just the losing, it was the lack of passion and fight and we've played like that in the last few derbies under this bloke.

Mate I must have watched a different game. How can you say there was no drive and passion from the players !!! We were the better side and any neutral observer would have say so. They were lucky with their winner. 9/10 Borini wouldn't have scored that one if he had the same chance again and again. Also dimmer and williamsons should have done better against both goals.

Where was the hoffing from Newcastle ? We only started hoffing it after their late goal which is understandable because we were running out of time.

No one who is honest and not a Pardew hater would say Sunderland played better and deserved their win. They just got lucky against the run of play. We would have won it on another day.

We were the better side almost the entire game. Poyet is just got lucky with Borini's goal. Also don't forget our two centre backs didn't perform as we'll enough today.

Sissoko wasn't doing much so I don't see how taking him off and bringing Cisse on was a bad decision. Some people here just want to blame Pardew for anything that goes wrong.

Their goal was against the run of play. It was a fluke strike from Borini the same ones Cisse use to score. Just unlucky.

Juande Ramos. Is he employed ?

Krul is shite

This is the problem with Ben Arfa. If he was consistent enough he would be at Real Madrid or Barcelona not Newcastle. He can have a blinders like the game against Aston Vila and Fulham but he can also have shit games like the hull and Everton ones.

My problem with him is when it isn't his day then can rally be a liability. He can't get away with crap like that against Everton and hull and still be a starter.

He is a great CB. Him and Colo are class. Shame the back ups are no where near good as those two.

Great game from Mathieu. Tackled well, pushed forward and supported Ben Arfa well. Very good game.

He's the best player that we've had under the worst manager that we've had. He has some faults, but I absolutely adore him tbh, he can do whatever the f*** he wants. He's exactly the reason I watch football and always will be. The thought of him under Robson is both mouth-watering and thoroughly depressing.

I think Robson and even Kegan would have wanted Hatem to waste less time and pass it more often to his team mates than telling him to go and take the whole opposing team on his own.

Robson used to get frustrated with Laurent Robert sometimes for similar reasons to Hatem even though the latter is more wasteful at times.

Imagine Hatem Ben Arfa under Grahame Souness 

Is Steve Harper starting ahead of Shay Given ?

I also think once Shola went off and Remy came on Ben Arfa moved few gears up and started to mix his moves more and made much better crosses and passing decisions. The whole team for god sake went few gears up after Remy replaced Shola.

Yes he sometimes tries too much when taking the entire team on his own or always trying to nutmeg and dribble past players but that is him and he is not the same player without him doing what he loves doing on the pitch. Players like him make the difference between drawing the game and winning it like he did last week against Fulham and like he has done before against Bolton and Blackburn.

I certainly don't think we can win many games with 10 Ben Arfas in the team but having a one Ben Arfa always in the team can be the difference between 90 minutes of drawing/loosing or 85 minutes of frustration and weeks of joy afterwards.

He had a very good game. Great defensively and always chasing the ball wanting possession back. Very good going forward and supporting the winger.