JB

Bayern finally get a second.

Bayern have been by far the dominant side in this game, missed a load of chances though, which could obviously come back to bite them in the arse later in the tie.

I'd really enjoy repeatedly punching Mark Clattenburg in the face.

Fucking shut up about Chelsea and last years final.

Should have been another yellow there, Clattenburg is such a dickhead.

How is that not a yellow for Vidal?!

No is suggesting they are separate are they though? We are suggesting they should be separate. Football is a sport, its a global sport where kids go watching games, its entertainment. I don't see many club campaigning for politicians in elections, I don't see any club adopting an ideology. Football as a sport has grown from that time, nowadays it's more 'company politics' rather than real politics. It exists obviously, but that is what is dirty about the sport. In my opinion we only find clear evidence of politics in the highest governing body of football FIFA and Sepp Blatter. Like I said, most know there is politics involved in football, but I don't agree with you or Icke on how you suggest football works today. Yes, at least one person did: Yes they are man. We have 50K crowds made up of people from all walks of life and all political persuasions. PDC's politics are irrelavent and like the above poster said we should be more concerned about any positive impact he has in terms of motivation despite his weak managerial cv.

There is some absolute nonsense being spouted in this thread "football and politics are separate" FFS Though I disagree, I have no problem with those saying they should be separate but to ignore even something as close to home as the old firm is ridiculous.

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. What is a football club? What is politics? I've explained the reasoning behind this. A football club is driven like it's a company and not a political party. No one cares, if you are black, white, olive, pale, socialist, conservative, communist when it comes down to football. It's not the 50's or 60's anymore. What about Rangers and Celtic, their whole rivalry is based on Protestantism/Loyalism v Catholicism/Republicanism?

So bad it's good.

?????? I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life? I still don't get what you're going on about. I've got zero interest in politics and don't get why people are getting uptight about someone who has rather than focusing on the football which is the most important thing. I'm mostly annoyed by your use of the word fenian. Bizarre. Are you not aware of its meaning?! It's a derogatory word for catholic/Irish people. FFS, why is everyone so fucking precious? FFS You belong on RTG with phrases and views like that.

?????? I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life? I still don't get what you're going on about. I've got zero interest in politics and don't get why people are getting uptight about someone who has rather than focusing on the football which is the most important thing. I'm mostly annoyed by your use of the word fenian. Bizarre. Are you not aware of its meaning?! It's a derogatory word for catholic/Irish people.

?????? I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life? I still don't get what you're going on about. I've got zero interest in politics and don't get why people are getting uptight about someone who has rather than focusing on the football which is the most important thing. I'm mostly annoyed by your use of the word fenian.

?????? I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life?

ujpest doza: You can discriminate against the Irish, Catholics and the disabled but for gods sake don't bring politics into football.

I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life?

I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. FFS, man

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Or not having any other real option. I felt he did but i would now have to try to justify that with names, games and factual content. Canny be arsed If Ben Arfa stayed fit I am confident Jonas would have gone the same way as Simpson and Williamson. He has been dropped for Ben Arfa before. Marveaux just isn't a wide player. After that we are left with Obertan or Sammy (now on loan) or Ferguson (now on loan). We really have f*** all options and it's why we need to sign a forward and winger in the summer as a priority (then a Colo replacement if he goes as expected). I just think it's harsh to blame him for things he doesn't have much choice over. Who chose to play Shola through the middle and push Cisse out to the wing on occasion this season? How many times did that happen? Or not having any other real option. I felt he did but i would now have to try to justify that with names, games and factual content. Canny be arsed If Ben Arfa stayed fit I am confident Jonas would have gone the same way as Simpson and Williamson. He has been dropped for Ben Arfa before. Marveaux just isn't a wide player. After that we are left with Obertan or Sammy (now on loan) or Ferguson (now on loan). We really have f*** all options and it's why we need to sign a forward and winger in the summer as a priority (then a Colo replacement if he goes as expected). I just think it's harsh to blame him for things he doesn't have much choice over. Who chose to play Shola through the middle and push Cisse out to the wing on occasion this season? How many times did that happen? I've spent the last hour arguing with you and now you're telling me you don't even go to the games? Woah. I've clicked RTG by mistake. Fuck off mag kernt. Piss off!

I'd forgotten about that spies shite he came out with. :lol:

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