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Whitley mag

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  1. " But I won't glorify Saudi Arabia, I won't be holding up a Saudi flag or dressing like a daft c*** with a tea towel on my head. I won't personally promote Saudi Arabia. "

    If fans do that its probably with the best of intentions , most people are not political really . To call fans who might stick a tea towel on their heads c***s says more about you quite frankly than it does them

     

    It says they are uneducated and do not understand the issues at hand.

     

    I think a lot of our fans will fall into that category.

     

    Bit off to class a lot of our fans as uneducated.

     

    Think the majority fully understand the history is Saudi, however when the government and royal’s are happy to associate with them, I again stand by my stance why should we be asked to condemn them.

     

    We may have a few nuggets who take things a bit far, but to generalise the majority as uneducated is a tad condescending.

  2. Just had a look in the success at any cost thread, quickly exited it’s like a parallel universe. I get some people have strong views on saudi’s, but the type casting of our support who back this takeover, you would think we are all thickos who need educating.

     

    Every person I speak to is buzzing for this takeover. Actually feel kind of sorry for some of these fans who probably were desperate to get rid of Ashley, but can’t enjoy this due to their strong feelings.

     

    But like I say yet to meet any of these types in my every day life !

     

    Counting down the minutes to cracking open those #cans

     

    Don't feel I need educated but when this was all announced I'll admit I got pretty excited by it all, started thinking up wild s*** that could be our reality now!

     

    But then you think about it more, and think about the links we may have to such a f***ing abhorrent state and it's definitely not something any fan can possibly want, regardless of the wealth etc.

     

    I wish I could be cut and dry with the matter like yourself and others you met, but it does sit a little uneasy on me. Problem is, I don't practice this in every single aspect of life and thus I feel really hypocritical :idiot2:

     

    My justification is pretty simplistic if this country is prepared to accept 60 billion of Saudi investment, why should we feel duty bound to make a stand regarding this.

     

    It’s the modern world unfortunately why should we suffer more pain just keep Gary Kasparov and co sleeping easy at night.

     

    Like I say maybe simplistic and uneducated, but I’d guess it’s the majority of fans view on this.

     

     

     

    You don’t have to accept that either.

     

    I already have bring on the # cans

  3. Just had a look in the success at any cost thread, quickly exited it’s like a parallel universe. I get some people have strong views on saudi’s, but the type casting of our support who back this takeover, you would think we are all thickos who need educating.

     

    Every person I speak to is buzzing for this takeover. Actually feel kind of sorry for some of these fans who probably were desperate to get rid of Ashley, but can’t enjoy this due to their strong feelings.

     

    But like I say yet to meet any of these types in my every day life !

     

    Counting down the minutes to cracking open those #cans

     

    Don't feel I need educated but when this was all announced I'll admit I got pretty excited by it all, started thinking up wild s*** that could be our reality now!

     

    But then you think about it more, and think about the links we may have to such a f***ing abhorrent state and it's definitely not something any fan can possibly want, regardless of the wealth etc.

     

    I wish I could be cut and dry with the matter like yourself and others you met, but it does sit a little uneasy on me. Problem is, I don't practice this in every single aspect of life and thus I feel really hypocritical :idiot2:

     

    My justification is pretty simplistic if this country is prepared to accept 60 billion of Saudi investment, why should we feel duty bound to make a stand regarding this.

     

    It’s the modern world unfortunately why should we suffer more pain just keep Gary Kasparov and co sleeping easy at night.

     

    Like I say maybe simplistic and uneducated, but I’d guess it’s the majority of fans view on this.

     

     

  4. Just had a look in the success at any cost thread, quickly exited it’s like a parallel universe. I get some people have strong views on saudi’s, but the type casting of our support who back this takeover, you would think we are all thickos who need educating.

     

    Every person I speak to is buzzing for this takeover. Actually feel kind of sorry for some of these fans who probably were desperate to get rid of Ashley, but can’t enjoy this due to their strong feelings.

     

    But like I say yet to meet any of these types in my every day life !

     

    Counting down the minutes to cracking open those #cans

  5. What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It's not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It's having loads of money to spend on players and ignoring everything else. the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city.

     

    Wrong the noise, passion, feeling of belonging will be greater after this takeover than at any point in the last 13 years.

     

    So would having any other owner.

     

    Granted but your kidding yourself if you don’t think this takeover has captured the imagination like no other. It could take us to 90’s levels of excitement, something a whole generation of our support have never experienced.

     

    In your bubble maybe. Not saying that bubble's not the majority or anything, or that it won't influence the next generation, but I wouldn't count on this being the thing that reunites the existing fan base, this debate will go on for a while and I can see plastics replacing the existing fans who this whole thing doesn't sit right with.

     

    Think you’ll be surprised by how many old school lads will make a comeback if he goes.

     

    Don’t think the atmosphere as it is at the minute could be any worse.

  6. What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It's not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It's having loads of money to spend on players and ignoring everything else. the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city.

     

    Wrong the noise, passion, feeling of belonging will be greater after this takeover than at any point in the last 13 years.

     

    So would having any other owner.

     

    Granted but your kidding yourself if you don’t think this takeover has captured the imagination like no other. It could take us to 90’s levels of excitement, something a whole generation of our support have never experienced.

     

  7. What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It's not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It's having loads of money to spend on players and ignoring everything else. the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city.

     

    Wrong the noise, passion, feeling of belonging will be greater after this takeover than at any point in the last 13 years.

  8. I am struggling to understand the “if it’s not the Saudis I’m done” argument? Liverpool are owned by Americans and they’ve done pretty f***ing well. What if the American bidders were to invest in the team, the infrastructure, and build us towards a team challenging the top 6? You wouldn’t want that? And we get that without any of the baggage associated with the PCP bid? That attitude seems crazy to me. There are people writing them off as terrible owners and we don’t even know who they are? Seems bizarre to me. Stifler was writing about them aiming for 17th and keeping Bruce, based on essentially nothing.

     

    Think the majority of us can handle baggage if it means fu#%ing trophies.

     

    Admire you moral stance but for me it’ all about the club. This is on a different level to anything we could have dreamed of.

     

    Who’s to say this takeover will not help bring about further change in Saudi for the good anyway.

  9. 3 separate articles on news now from daily mail, each one sticking the knife in. They practically let that t#%t from fair square right an article. I wouldn’t care if his main point was human rights, however he’s trying to use the sheff u conflict of influence angle.

     

    Let no one be in any doubt these f£@#rs will try anything to stop this, how anyone nufc can even emphasise with them is beyond me.

    It's the Daily Mail, how could you in the first place?

     

    No idea mate just like torturing myself at the min (no Saudi pun intended )

     

    To quote the great man himself before signing off

     

    Don't ever give up on your club.

    Keep supporting it, it's your club and trust me, one day you will get your club back and it will be everything you wanted it to be.” - Kevin Keegan

     

    Are we getting it back now or with the next owner?

     

    The Staveley bid will feel as close to getting club back as we could achieve. It’s already documented she’s engaged locally with certain people. They appear keen to engage with previous players and bring them back into club. Staveley has already used Man City as an example of how they have invested in local regeneration as an example of what she would like to do. Just imagine that millions being pumped into local regeneration, the impact on the city post Coronavirus would be enormous.

     

    And finally fans like me who haven’t been for years due to the current parasite, would feel able to return to St James.

     

    So yeah apart from fan ownership that would pretty much feel like having my club back.

  10. 3 separate articles on news now from daily mail, each one sticking the knife in. They practically let that t#%t from fair square right an article. I wouldn’t care if his main point was human rights, however he’s trying to use the sheff u conflict of influence angle.

     

    Let no one be in any doubt these f£@#rs will try anything to stop this, how anyone nufc can even emphasise with them is beyond me.

    It's the Daily Mail, how could you in the first place?

     

    No idea mate just like torturing myself at the min (no Saudi pun intended )

     

    To quote the great man himself before signing off

     

    Don't ever give up on your club.

    Keep supporting it, it's your club and trust me, one day you will get your club back and it will be everything you wanted it to be.” - Kevin Keegan

  11. 3 separate articles on news now from daily mail, each one sticking the knife in. They practically let that t#%t from fair square right an article. I wouldn’t care if his main point was human rights, however he’s trying to use the sheff u conflict of influence angle.

     

    Let no one be in any doubt these f£@#rs will try anything to stop this, how anyone nufc can even emphasise with them is beyond me.

  12. It's the Staveley takover or nothing for me. I am not interested in what any other party have to offer and neither will I put myself through the emotional ringer for yet more weeks and months by checking the internet for "progress" updates of the next farce.

     

    Before this all kicked off a couple of weeks ago my interest in football was zero and in NUFC very little more than that. I was checking in to this place no more than twice a week and the lockdown had made me realise that I was truly ready to walk away from it all for good. The delirium of the last fortnight has pulled me right back in again but if this falls through then I will be even more bitter than I was just over two weeks ago and that will truly be the final straw. I wont watch a game of English football ever again.

     

    It's a PIF takeover or bust and I suspect many will be saying the same. I have nothing to prove as a NUFC supporter....been going since 1984 and have had all of the football-related despair that one person can take. This falls through and thats me over the edge and not coming back.

     

    Nail on head 86 for me and this would be it forever

  13. We’ll know if directors test is passsed via unofficial channels close to group, then prob few days later for formal announcement.

     

    Such as sports ministers following us on twitter.

    This is the thing for me like, there's so much ancillary evidence to suggest it's well on its way but the instant some fucknugget on twitter posts a bit of speculative thick-as-whale-spunk s**** everybody's in the pit of despair again

     

    Don’t think I’ve ever known us as supporter base to be as jumpy as we are at the minute. But never has so much been at stake !

  14. I’d take this consortium over any American hedge fund. I genuinely believe Staveley will be best thing to happen to this city in years.

     

    More importantly post Coronavirus she’s the only show in town. So if it’s a choice of the Saudis or mike I know who I’m with.

    Why, what’s wrong with an American hedge fund?

     

    A faceless hedge fund operating entirely to make profit for its investors. I’d like to wager they won’t be looking to invest in the city like this lot.

     

    This is a game changer and why people elsewhere are uneasy and rattled.

     

    An ambitious and wealthy Newcastle with momentum will be unstoppable.

     

  15. Just sitting in the garden watching a re run of Kelly’s goal v Pompey in 92. Reminds me of what this club is about, a radged up st James, limbs all over, people spilling on the bench kissing the turf, lads next to me from shields, Washington going fucking mental in the east stand.

     

    Point being let’s get a fucking grip over this takeover f!#k your keys, delaneys, holt and Gary fu@#ing Kasparov !

     

    I can understand amnesty’s stance but the above mentioned have ulterior motives, self interest and above all else are hypocriites. We’ve all seen the photo of Delaney in his Man U shirt and Kasparov with emiratis this morning.

     

    These tw$%s have the audacity to tell us what we should do and quote nufc is a community club who should be protected.

     

    Where were these fu%#$rs the last 13 years when we’ve royally been fu#%ed over. I didn’t see any of them writing to the premier league demanding mike to be kicked out.

     

    Speaking personally when this goes through I’ll be going mental like back in 92 !

     

    Newcastle United will never be defeated !

     

  16. Another factor, are they going to stop a sale worth £300m in the current climate? Could Ashley appeal for example if they tried to stop it? He could argue he needs the money to support his other businesses at this time.

     

    Any high court action by Staveley or Ashley to reverse decision could take months. Ashley would simply attempt to sell to some money making faceless American investment group, or worse still we’d be stuck with him.

     

    This takeover attempt is our last chance for years in my humble.

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