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God, please don't be Eddie Howe, only because I don't want to hear the media hype him up, please be someone foreign like Benitez.

Guess he decided to play it safe instead of taking a risk at Newcastle with hugely changing demands from the owners from safety to top 6 in a few years probably. Just shows he's not the right man for the job in a way.

Not sure if Ole or Tets is more tragic at managing.

Haha, now that Conte's out of reach, hope they get humiliated every game under Ole

Is there a reason for the bread tweet?

From League 2 to Championship just proves he's an excellent lower league manager. You can only judge him on the PL for a PL club Like I can see how he's a big upgrade on Bruce but you guys are now able to attract most managers so probably should aim higher than Howe. I'd have been mad if we got him at Arsenal personally

Honestly the media on English managers over-achievements are always over the top. 46 points was not a huge overachievement by any stretch of the imagination. In the PL under Howe, they had 42, 46, 44, 45 and then 34 points. You'd think his 9th place would be some huge outlier and a great performance when it was just the rest of the league being utter shite. People remember 9th because that's what the media want you to remember, but he was pretty consistently the same except the last season

Knew someone would bring that up. He finished 9th with 46 points which is about what he got most seasons, just above 40. Just lucked out that all teams were dire enough that 8th was 46 points ahead on goal difference for Southampton In contrast, 7th was 61 points. That was an outlier of a season, as shown by the fact he put up similar numbers the year after and finished 14th

True, but he did also take them down. It's a failure of a manager if you go down after four to five years surely. Also look at Potter and Brighton, and what actual overachievement is. Bournemouth were good enough for midtable and nothing more. Hell, even Sheffield's one good season was more impressive.

Howe did very well at the lower levels, but you have to question how well he did in the PL. I know Bournemouth are a small time club that got to the PL but he made genuinely awful signings and was mugged off for those genuinely awful signings too. Honestly, we also went apoplectic because signing Howe while Liverpool went out and got Klopp and Chelsea got out to get Conte was woefully small time. Also before anyone goes all OMG if he was Howiola, Potter doesn't get the same reaction from fans because his teams genuinely overperform and play excellent football. Howe played possession football which was sterile honestly.

I'm going by that that the guy supports Arteta? Like I know it's a random conclusion to draw, but that's what Arteta fans like to say about how the club was gone and then Tets rescued us from the abyss. Nah, but seriously we were 8th when he was sacked and finished 8th and then 8th again. Towards the end, we had some shocking games like I said previously, that Watford game was the absolute nadir. That said, there are mitigating factors Emery wanted a midfielder, we didn't give him who he wanted. He wanted Zaha, we gave him Pepe. We never replaced Ramsey. And well, after that Europa League final, there were murmurs of Good Ebening jokes around the squad and a complete lack of respect. But you have to give it to Emery for introducing Emile who is doing well, introducing Saka who is doing well, introducing Willock who's now at yours, Douzi did well under him. So some positives but the seniors in Ozil and co had completely stopped responding to Emery. That said, yes, we were fucking woeful near the end, but that's pretty much the exception for him to be that bad at us and at PSG. He has been very good at other clubs by all accounts, and his first season, we were a point off top 4, and had we just got that point, it'd be a completely different story. He was very good in the first season, which is why I'm inclined to believe the second was a blip Sadly some of our fans are now so patient with Arteta after Emery, even though he's been far worse. I think the players really did stop trying near the end, bar the younger members of the squad.

Probably stupid and more a theoretical question, but would it be worth it to break FFP once and go full tilt, get a very good squad, then deal with whatever punishment they give. Doubt they'll give a huge points deduction that'll get a club relegated. And once there's a base in, it's much easier to win in the future. Kind of what Chelsea did but Chelsea didn't have to deal with FFP.

I'm assuming he has a plan B. The Emery teams we saw in the Europa league against us, and the Sevilla team against Liverpool were not the sort of team we tried to be. So I'm guessing from those matches that he can set up a team to defend and play a more direct style. He was organised in those games, also in the final against United. Which makes me think our experience with his more attacking football won't be seen at NUFC for a year at least

It was brutal to watch early on with frankly much better players when he tried it at ours. How is Dubravka with the ball at his feet? He infuriatingly wanted us to pass the ball to the centerback inside the box almost all the time and it was fucking scary to watch. Watching Cech playing out to Mustafi who will play it to Xhaka was equal parts scary and hilarious.

Best of what Emery did at us (Were some awful moments in between too). But you'll notice fullbacks pushing up high and overlapping and sending in many short crosses He's also very open with his feelings on the touchline

Random but hate these cunts for breaking Diaby's legs with minutes left and the game over.

Tbf, I think defensive football was the wrong word. When going for games, we used to press high and played out from the back often very very calamitously because Cech can't play out of the back to save his life.

Then hopefully it goes well. Emery started pretty well with us, we had two losses then that long unbeaten run. He did well till we had Ramsey, then after he left, we had some shocking, shocking games. There was a Watford game we drew iirc, but we conceded like 30 shots to like 4 for us or something. Maybe I'm overstating how bad it was from memory though. He had an awful habit of the team sitting back after scoring then we conceded eventually. But he probably has to get a new system for this season for you guys. Bellerin had the season of his life under Emery before he was injured, because he had wingbacks up and crossing. Don't follow NUFC much, but pretty sure you guys have horribly fullbacks like Dummett (Though I will probably be wrong, I don't follow you guys a lot). That said, if he can get Willock to do the Ramsey thing, Wilson firing and fullbacks with good, low crosses into Willock's runs and Wilson, I think he can do well. No idea how he'll do in a relegation scenario though. But I think most of us probably thought the same for Benitez when he went to Newcastle and he improved over Mclaren so no idea how far the conventional bring in the English lads to save from relegation logic even works.

Arsenal fan (Not the RTG in peace type) who's lived up north near Gateshead so love Newcastle too. Very capable manager chased away by fans who didn't appreciate how poor the squad was and by players with a shocking attitude who have since been shipped out. So happy to see him land on his feet at a big club with a huge transfer bounty hopefully. His English is far better than the media would have you believe, Good ebening's aside, he was easily able to communicate what he wanted to say without the use of a translator. I will say though, seeing how some of you dislike defensive football that he's not the most aggressive manager. We had some shocking games with 20-30 shots against, but that was also possibly because of players possibly not playing for him. But he has a 'pragmatic' attitude which Tets also has. Still, he easily outmanaged Tets in the Europa League game. Easily a top manager imo, and probably the best you can get with Dummett and Shelvey still in the squad. I think I can easily say that he'll have you top 6 in a couple of years if backed with money and if you survive relegation (Big ifs coz you guys look dreadful currently)