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In my opinion, it's the exact opposite of clean looking - the back is completely divided in two, the stripes on the sides don't match up, there's curved panels on the sides, the collar is in two parts and it's got a fake jagged edge to the stripes. Then you've got 'HOWAY THE LADS' written in a nasty font on the back. Add in the unfortunately unavoidable truncated three stripes on the shoulder and the blue details that are always a divisive element among fans and it looks a mess to me personally. For me the last two Castore efforts were clean looking designs.

Well it takes all sorts I suppose. For me that's Puma/late 2000s adidas tier.

Are you serious?

Two magpies get in

But just like the original was, it will always be fondly remembered for being worn during our happiest season in most peoples memories.

I do wonder whether the club or the manufacturers do market research on these kits - is it possible that loads of fans have been consulted and gave positive feedback on this design? If so who are they asking? And if not, why not? I haven't seen much positive feedback on this design from any channel. It's just so random.

Come back Puma/Castore all is forgiven.....

Liverpool getting all this remake stuff next season! If they gives us the same treatment maybe we'll get the 96 away along with the burgundy training stuff.

What would happen if we finish on same GD and same goals scored as Chelsea? Head to head is exactly even.

Apologies if this has been covered before but am i right in saying we can't finish any lower than 6th barring a 0-3 defeat on Saturday?

If we can believe what was said in this evenings workshop then I expect the badge will look.like this with a simplified scroll underneath with bolder letters:

Carol and Dawnie pretending to give a f*ck about Zunderland on Look North there....you know as soon as the cameras are off they are slagging them off.

I actually quite like that! Definitely the best of a bad bunch, at the very least.

Yes, it's in Premier League rules that every club can display a charity sponsor once every season.

I wonder if we'll have a charity sponsor on the last day of the season? Would be a bit mean of the club if they didn't take that opportunity.

I hope they don't go with a magpie on the new badge. I wont be able to wear it. I can wear this seasons 3rd shirt because it has two magpies on it. If I want to wear an early 80s Umbro shirt, I would have to wear the shorts as well to ensure there is a second magpie present. Hopefully I'll be able to get this across to the powers that be tomorrow.

A Marra-chute payment in fact

Zunderland have won a game, now someone called MadMackem10 on RTG is pondering a transfer for Joe Bellingham to MADRID!

I'm hoping there will be some cracking adidas Originals next season to make up for that.

surely that cant be genuine? It doesn't fit in with what they are telling us - the ribbon is MORE complicated than the old one!

Reading the announcement I think it's going to be a simplification of the current badge rather than a completely new design. I'm not sure how you go about simplifying it tho - less detail on the seahorses? No scroll? No gilt edge on the shield?

The ones with the chriss cross background are always fakes.

"Marrative"

Seeing them side by side makes me appreciate how actually great the old one is:

Long sleeves tho