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Ipswich 2-2Palace Leicester 2-1 West Ham Everton 1-2 Wolves Man City 1-0Forest Newcastle 1-0Liverpool Southampton 1-4Chelsea Arsenal 3-1 Man United Villa 1-1 Brentford Chosen Game Fulham 1-2 Brighton Bournemouth 2-2 Spurs

Brighton 3-1 Southampton Brentford 3-1 Leicester Palace 0-2 Newcastle Forest 2-1 Ipswich Wolves 2-1 Bournemouth. Chosen game West Ham 0-3 Arsenal Chelsea 2-1 Villa Man United 2-0 Everton Spurs 3-1 Fulham Liverpool 2-1 Man City

If the “ rumours” are correct he has signed for another year with an option of another year. Looking realistically at the 115+ charges we certainly have a final resolution before the start of 25/26 season or more relevant until after the 25/26 PL annual general meeting. We won’t know till probably Feb/March at the earliest the outcome of the initial IC ruling so add in the appeal process and then in a blink of an eye you are almost certainly post the last game of the 24/25 season then I believe that that arbitration is a possibility. It’s too easy to pre judge the outcome but for me even if City are proven guilty of every charge the sanction will be points deduction and fines in 26/27 which of course we believe is the final guaranteed year of his soon to be announced squeaky new contract. You can almost hear it now “ Winning x number of PL titles was wonderful but my greatest achievement was avoiding regulation despite a 40 ( delete and replace with whichever number you feel appropriate) point deduction

Leicester v Chelsea 1-2 Arsenal v Forest 1-1 Villa v Palace2-0 Bournemouth v Brighton2-1 Everton v Brentford 1-3 Fulham v Wolves 2-1 Man City v Spurs 4-1 Southampton v Liverpool 1-0 Ipswich v Man United 1-2 Newcastle v West Ham 3-1

Coote was obviously well out of order to make such comments but, here’s the only but, referees are human and like policemen, like anyone getting dogs from an individual or an entity is it any surprise that they take offence and have a strong opinion. Klopp wasnt/ isn’t alone in the delivering the level of verbal abuse that referees are expected to take on the chin so I would imagine the views Coote was expressing probably are mirrored by other referees maybe not all re matters Liverpool but based on their experience be it your club, my club or wherever. I have been to every current PL ground save Ipswich. The two worse experiences I suffered were Man City and Liverpool. City supporters in the closest section to us spent the whole game looking at us more interest in jestering all game and were quite comfortable throwing objects in the knowledge the stewards simply didn’t have a clue what to do but compared to the Anfield experience it was a joy. It can’t be anything to do with Liverpudlians because the Everton experience was fine but at Liverpool prior to the game my wife was spat on and we received the type of verbal abuse that was a level or two up from Cootes comments but once in the ground to be on the receiving end of abuse, suffering a direct hit from a urine filled ballon it’s easy to understand why someone has negative views re a particular club. Cootes days are done as a ref but why is anyone surprised that a ref dislikes a club, dislikes an individual or comes to that even has an opinion because I am pretty sure every ref has experienced abuse and has formed an opinion or has a like or a dislike because after all they are human and we all if we are honest have opinions about those we have come in contact with in our working life who have verbally abused us, accused us or whatever.

Gameweek 11 Brentford v Bournemouth 1-2 Palace v Fulham 0-2 West Ham v Everton 3-1 Wolves v Southampton 2-0 Brighton v Man City 1-2 Liverpool v Villa 3-1 Man United v Leicester 2-0 Forest v Newcastle 1-1 Spurs v Ipswich3-1 Chelsea v Arsenal 2-2

Gameweek 10 Newcastle v Arsenal. 2-1 Bournemouth v Man City 1-0 Ipswich v Leicester 1-2 Liverpool v Brighton 3-1 Selected Game Forest v West Ham 2-0 Southampton v Everton 1-2 Wolves v Palace 2-0 Spurs v Villa 2-2 Man United v Chelsea2-2 Fulham v Brentford 3-1

Leicester v Forest1-1 Villa v Bournemouth0-2 Brentford v Ipswich 2-0 Brighton v Wolves 3-1 Man City v Southampton 4-1 Everton v Fulham2-0 Chelsea v Newcastle 2-2 Palace v Spurs 0-2 West Ham v Man United 2-1 Arsenal v Liverpool. 1-2

Spurs 3 v 2West Ham Fulham 2 v 1 Villa Ipswich 2 v 1 Everton Man United 1 v 1 Brentford Newcastle 1 v 1 Brighton Southampton 1 v 2 Leicester Bournemouth 0 v 2 Arsenal Chosen Match Wolves 0 v 4 Man City Liverpool 2 v 2 Chelsea Forest 1 v 1 Palace

His silence perhaps?

There is another route although there are tax implications and that is a company can buy back shares . Profit based on time held will attract CGT but in theory can I believe only be done in one transaction if the company has surplus cash

Time will tell but from everything I read save the issue of soft loans (which ironically City weren’t against when the PL clubs made the decision to exempt these loans from PSR calculations ) the objections were about the process to determine FV . Shifting the burden of proof and the access to the databank were the key objections and not the principal of APT.

It appears that Chelseas support for City was a repeat of why they voted against the amended rules namely process as opposed to the application of an APT process. It would seem that alternatives to the amended rules had been submitted for discussion but weren’t ever voted on. Whilst as someone pointed out that in the PL rules there is a requirement to wait 21 days to vote on rules at a general meeting at 13.5 of the Pls A&M of association there is provision should 18 clubs (90% of those able to vote) agree the time requirements can be ignored

I posted elsewhere on the point of interest . The ruling doesn’t mean that interest will be charged at all what it does mean that in PSR calculations there will be notional adjustments in respect of an assumed sum. That said it was pointed out to me that it’s quite possible that say KSE at Arsenal do charge interest of say £15 million Pa KSE in turn as a consequence of ruling around sponsorship simply sponsor say the training ground or maybe become a global partner fir say £15 million Pa to in effect nullify any charge to interest

In most but not all instances where there are “ soft loans” the entity/ person that has lent the money has done so in the knowledge that they will never see the loan repaid nor are these loans secured against assets in effect shifting from a loan to creating more shares isn’t a major challenge I very much doubt that anything could or would be done to factor in notional interest retrospectively but even if they did most of the clubs like Everton, like Brighton and yes Arsenal would probably argue that the loan was either in full or part to fund areas that are PSR exempt such as infrastructures and even then if PSR charges were laid my guess is that there would almost certainly significant mitigation in any sanction Going forward however all that will happen is that these type of loans will almost certainly be converted to equity. Bear in mind that PSR rules were being amended to another form of control and whilst City are clearly trying to put the PL under even greater pressure they , City threw everything including the kitchen sink at this arbitration and yes they have won the argument around process the principle argument about the legality of measures applied to associated transactions they didn’t win and that is the main point here. City I genuinely believe had hoped for a far more definitive ruling and that isn’t the case. The likelihood of this impacting the 115 /130 allegations is close to zero s now focus will turn to the three sponsorship deals that are in limbo and in all probability will now have to be agreed as will some sort of compensation. As for clubs like yours like mine that supported City I would be surprised if the support was for every aspect more to do with what was in the clubs best interest and that could be around the data bank access or more likely the onus or burden of proof shifting back to the PL when it comes to assessing fair value. I would suspect that the PL are indeed in a stronger position in that the leaks some while ago was that City were going to win in some narrow areas so the tribunal ruling will shape changes