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Because he got sacked. Unless Poch gets sacked as well that is not happening

Poch just signed with team USA, no way: - they'll let him go cheaply - he'd want to leave so soon - Newcastle would be willing to pay what it takes to get him now Also, I'm not that convinced Mitchell will be the one making those decisions, either firing Howe or hiring the next manager. PIF will look to bring in their own man IMO, someone experienced and a bigger name they can sell and show off as an "ambitious hire". They won't sign off on another young-ish unproven manager if they have to fire Howe in the middle of the season which would mean the club is in deep jeopardy of reaching their goals this season IMO.

That's an entirely different discussion, although I do think Allegri and Xavi if not ZZ would listen and be interested. And I'm not sure if manager's wages go into PSR calculation the way player's fees and wages do. But if you want to be where you'd think PIF want to get with this club then you have to make that next step sooner or later. That's the whole point. If you sign a manager like that then you give him 3 years just as you'd give them to Howe or Potter or Amorim or Xabi Alonso and see how different your team looks then.

Give over what? Are you suggesting Howe is anywhere near any of those, especially Zidane and Allegri?

Allegri and Xavi for sure. Zidane would be much harder IMO. Xavi managed in Qatar as well, but essentially yeah. But I honestly don't see how that matters. It's much harder to manager at those clubs due to pressure, expectations and egos than it is mid-table, no matter the difference in squad quality.

Allegri, Zidane, Xavi are all literally free and MUCH better and more proven managers. I get the attachment to Eddie, I like him as well, nice lad, did an excellent job since he was hired, but let's reign it in a little bit. If he's not getting sacked it's not because there aren't better options out there.

Another thing I asked myself is why didn't you snap up Neto early in the window. Fantastic player

Exactly my thoughts. I said out loud to myself at least 3-4 times so far "why is their defense so high against this team"

What are the chances he goes in mid-November if you don't win any of the games between now and then or do you think they'd give him the January window to strengthen the team no matter what?

On FM he is the Technical Director

Can I ask one question as a neutral? Why is there never rumors about you guys going for a left back? I've seen all kinds of things this summer, from a CB, to a Callum replacement, to obviously a RW, but nobody ever mentions Newcastle going for a LB when IMO that's the biggest need in your whole team. At least for RW you can put Gordon there and Barnes left, but LB is so so empty. Burn and Hall just don't cut it IMO

It was forced on Juve as well when the whole board resigned during the trials after the WC in Qatar. And Giuntoli wasn't signed as someone who had to fire Allegri from the start, he had enough time to do that as soon as he came. It just evolved into a situation like that because there are egos and power plays involved. Incumbent manager who did a lot for the club already wants some power for himself. New director doesn't want to relinquish any, he was hired by the owners to develop the club further etc. Look back at any recent ownership/management upheaval in football or any other sport. Manager is always the first to go. (I think ten Hag's days are numbered as well). Eddie will stay as long as he plays good football, delivers top 4 this year and doesn't rock the boat too much.

Yeah, there probably isn't. But trust me, there was no evidence of any discomfort, let alone anything more, at Juve last season either. Publicly everything was perfect but looking back at it there were red flags. Red flags I see now here looking from the outside and a lot of discourse we Juve fans had on our forums, some things are literal copy-paste from you guys.

If I may offer a neutral perspective. Full disclosure: I'm not a Newcastle fan. I have always been a Juventus fan, but liked Newcastle because of similar kits, colors, Shearer and through FM became really invested in the whole first failed takeover, later successful. What also helped the likeness is my fondness for Allegri who was free at the time and through some media linked with Newcastle which I started to follow more and more and now you guys have some of my favorite players in the world. Bruno was heavily linked to Juve before he came to Newcastle, Isak was a monster on FM etc. I see in your discussions a lot of my discussions from last season with other Juve fans after we got a new sporting director in Cristiano Giuntoli from Napoli. Another parallel between Juve and this situation is that 2 years ago the whole Juve board resigned and left Allegri alone at the club, among them his closest friends and confidants at the club. Staveley and her husband who I understand were huge Howe supporters left the club suddenly. I also convinced myself it would all be fine, Allegri is a people person, he will get along with anyone. Few months later here comes Giuntoli (who rumors had it didn't like Allegri and vice-versa), but when he came in July of last year it seemed like an idyllic relationship. Giuntoli was full of praise for Allegri, present at every training session, said things like "we have to bring Juve to his level, not the other way around" etc. Fast forward to the end of the transfer window, we barely signed any players, biggest signing was Timothy Weah for 12m, we lost some veteran players etc. We also convinced ourselves this was because Giuntoli came in late, didn't have time to bring in his own people, didn't have time to sign players etc. Season starts, we are on pace to break the points record in the league through January. Problem is Inter is a point above the whole time. During the season up to that point Allegri reached some kind of milestone, I think became second for number of wins in the history of the club, but despite good results and publicly fine relationship there were all these rumors about Allegri leaving at the end of the season, his replacements etc. which I always took for "media trying to destabilize the club" etc. After Allegri reached this milestone Giuntoli again publicly said Allegri is there to stay, even went as far as saying Allegri will reach Trapattoni in wins (over 200 wins away). January comes, both Allegri and some players are publicly pleading with the club to sign some help because they were just one point behind Inter and lost two best midfielders after the transfer window ended in September (Pogba doping and Fagioli betting like Tonali). The whole window goes by, no players are signed again except at the very end Carlos Alcaraz and Tiago Djalo for very cheap. Both are now gone from the club. After the transfer window in January ends our form plummets. In the end we barely scrap champions league places and rumors are again flying around. We win the cup and in the celebrations after Allegri literally forces Giuntoli off the pitch and prevents him from celebrating with the team. Why? Turns out while the manager and players were publicly pleading for some help by the management in January transfer window in their unlikely title battle Giuntoli was secretly meeting with Thiago Motta to replace Allegri (which he now did) and signing a replacement GK from Monza. Monza's director is a huge Allegri friend, told him all about this and shit hit the fan. Manager and players didn't take it well that the director who was supposed to help them was basically sabotaging the team because he simply wanted to bring in his own people. Another fast forward to now and literally half the team is gone, Allegri is gone, more board members left, more Giuntoli people came in and we have the highest transfer spend in the history of the club. I apologize for the long text, but I say all this to say - I have never seen a new boss coming in ending well for the current manager and most of the players. In any sport. I follow NBA a lot as well and every time there is a change in management the coach is fired within 18 months at the MOST. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't all this toxicity at Newcastle as there was at Juve last season, but I see a lot of parallels between Allegri and Howe, Mitchell and Giuntoli, club unable/unwilling to back the manager etc. I like Eddie, he did a good job overall since he came, I just think it's more likely he's gone within 6 months than he stays for the next 3 years. It's just the reality of the industry. Sorry if I annoyed anyone by the long post, by my Eddie statement or the fact I'm not a Newcastle supporter. I just became really disillusioned by the whole Juve situation, by our fan forums which I don't write on anymore and had a need to leave my thoughts somewhere. I like you guys, hope you do well this season.

Just get Tomori. Proven winner, played at the highest level, won a league title, went to CL semis, would probably be half the price and leave something more for a proper RW.