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Spurs have better players......

Given-Gomes

Beye-Hutton

Colocinni-Woodgate

Taylor-Corluka

Enrique-Exotto

Jonas-Bentley

Barton-Jenas

Guthrie-Modric

Duff-Bale

Martins-Bent

Owen-Pavalyuchenckco

 

Seems pretty f***ing even to me like

 

 

Modric even with Guthrie ??

Coloccini even with Woodgate?

Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)?

 

Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...?

 

I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him.

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas > Bentley

Barton > Jenas

Guthrie < Modric

Duff = Bale

Martins > Bent

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

TBH.

 

 

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas < Bentley (by a country mile)

Barton = Jenas (both have underachieved up to now)

Guthrie < Modric (Guthrie has shown promise but no class)

Duff = Bale

Martins = Bent (both capable of scoring on their day, otherwise a waste of space)

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

 

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Spurs have better players......

Given-Gomes

Beye-Hutton

Colocinni-Woodgate

Taylor-Corluka

Enrique-Exotto

Jonas-Bentley

Barton-Jenas

Guthrie-Modric

Duff-Bale

Martins-Bent

Owen-Pavalyuchenckco

 

Seems pretty f***ing even to me like

 

 

Modric even with Guthrie ??

Coloccini even with Woodgate?

Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)?

 

Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...?

 

I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him.

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas > Bentley

Barton > Jenas

Guthrie < Modric

Duff = Bale

Martins > Bent

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

TBH.

 

 

Jonas >>>>>> Jesus himself

 

QFT

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Guest sicko2ndbest

Spurs have better players......

Given-Gomes

Beye-Hutton

Colocinni-Woodgate

Taylor-Corluka

Enrique-Exotto

Jonas-Bentley

Barton-Jenas

Guthrie-Modric

Duff-Bale

Martins-Bent

Owen-Pavalyuchenckco

 

Seems pretty f***ing even to me like

 

 

Modric even with Guthrie ??

Coloccini even with Woodgate?

Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)?

 

Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...?

 

I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him.

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas > Bentley

Barton > Jenas

Guthrie < Modric

Duff = Bale

Martins > Bent

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

TBH.

 

 

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas < Bentley (by a country mile)

Barton = Jenas (both have underachieved up to now)

Guthrie < Modric (Guthrie has shown promise but no class)

Duff = Bale

Martins = Bent (both capable of scoring on their day, otherwise a waste of space)

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

 

 

I think at worst Jonas is equal to Bentley

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Spurs have better players......

Given-Gomes

Beye-Hutton

Colocinni-Woodgate

Taylor-Corluka

Enrique-Exotto

Jonas-Bentley

Barton-Jenas

Guthrie-Modric

Duff-Bale

Martins-Bent

Owen-Pavalyuchenckco

 

Seems pretty f***ing even to me like

 

 

Modric even with Guthrie ??

Coloccini even with Woodgate?

Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)?

 

Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...?

 

I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him.

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas > Bentley

Barton > Jenas

Guthrie < Modric

Duff = Bale

Martins > Bent

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

TBH.

 

 

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas < Bentley (by a country mile)

Barton = Jenas (both have underachieved up to now)

Guthrie < Modric (Guthrie has shown promise but no class)

Duff = Bale

Martins = Bent (both capable of scoring on their day, otherwise a waste of space)

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

 

 

I think at worst Jonas is equal to Bentley

 

On what basis?  Bentley has performed at club level for the last few years and on his day is immense.  Jonas has done what exactly since joining the club?  I admit that he looks promising but he all the praise showered upon him seems to be a little premature and hypetastic at best.

 

(I'm not stirring here - I just genuinely would prefer Bentley at the club)

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Spurs have better players......

Given-Gomes

Beye-Hutton

Colocinni-Woodgate

Taylor-Corluka

Enrique-Exotto

Jonas-Bentley

Barton-Jenas

Guthrie-Modric

Duff-Bale

Martins-Bent

Owen-Pavalyuchenckco

 

Seems pretty f***ing even to me like

 

 

Modric even with Guthrie ??

Coloccini even with Woodgate?

Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)?

 

Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...?

 

I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him.

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas > Bentley

Barton > Jenas

Guthrie < Modric

Duff = Bale

Martins > Bent

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

TBH.

 

 

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas < Bentley (by a country mile)

Barton = Jenas (both have underachieved up to now)

Guthrie < Modric (Guthrie has shown promise but no class)

Duff = Bale

Martins = Bent (both capable of scoring on their day, otherwise a waste of space)

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

 

 

I think at worst Jonas is equal to Bentley

 

On what basis?  Bentley has performed at club level for the last few years and on his day is immense.  Jonas has done what exactly since joining the club?  I admit that he looks promising but he all the praise showered upon him seems to be a little premature and hypetastic at best.

 

(I'm not stirring here - I just genuinely would prefer Bentley at the club)

 

Play 4 games, one of which was a man of the match display at Old Trafford. Give him a chance eh? Bentley is certainly not a country mile better at all.

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Spurs have better players......

Given-Gomes

Beye-Hutton

Colocinni-Woodgate

Taylor-Corluka

Enrique-Exotto

Jonas-Bentley

Barton-Jenas

Guthrie-Modric

Duff-Bale

Martins-Bent

Owen-Pavalyuchenckco

 

Seems pretty f***ing even to me like

 

 

Modric even with Guthrie ??

Coloccini even with Woodgate?

Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)?

 

Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...?

 

I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him.

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas > Bentley

Barton > Jenas

Guthrie < Modric

Duff = Bale

Martins > Bent

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

TBH.

 

 

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas < Bentley (by a country mile)

Barton = Jenas (both have underachieved up to now)

Guthrie < Modric (Guthrie has shown promise but no class)

Duff = Bale

Martins = Bent (both capable of scoring on their day, otherwise a waste of space)

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

 

 

I think at worst Jonas is equal to Bentley

 

On what basis?  Bentley has performed at club level for the last few years and on his day is immense.  Jonas has done what exactly since joining the club?  I admit that he looks promising but he all the praise showered upon him seems to be a little premature and hypetastic at best.

 

(I'm not stirring here - I just genuinely would prefer Bentley at the club)

 

Play 4 games, one of which was a man of the match display at Old Trafford. Give him a chance eh? Bentley is certainly not a country mile better at all.

 

I have not written him off.  That is not what I said. 

 

For the sake of clarity, I find it hard to humour a comparison between a player that has played "4 games, one of which was a man of the match display" and a player that has performed in the Premiership for the last couple of seasons, has broken into the England squad with some very good performances and has the potential to rip defences to shreds on his day.

 

I'll reconsider my position next season.  Otherwise, Jonas is firmly a "work in progress."  One thing that Toon fans are guilty of is building players up only to stress when they do not reach the lofty heights.

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Spurs have better players......

Given-Gomes

Beye-Hutton

Colocinni-Woodgate

Taylor-Corluka

Enrique-Exotto

Jonas-Bentley

Barton-Jenas

Guthrie-Modric

Duff-Bale

Martins-Bent

Owen-Pavalyuchenckco

 

Seems pretty f***ing even to me like

 

 

Modric even with Guthrie ??

Coloccini even with Woodgate?

Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)?

 

Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...?

 

I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him.

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas > Bentley

Barton > Jenas

Guthrie < Modric

Duff = Bale

Martins > Bent

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

TBH.

 

 

 

Given >>> Gomes

Beye = Hutton

Colocinni < Woodgate

Taylor < Corluka

Enrique = Exotto

Jonas < Bentley (by a country mile)

Barton = Jenas (both have underachieved up to now)

Guthrie < Modric (Guthrie has shown promise but no class)

Duff = Bale

Martins = Bent (both capable of scoring on their day, otherwise a waste of space)

Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco

 

 

 

I think at worst Jonas is equal to Bentley

 

On what basis?  Bentley has performed at club level for the last few years and on his day is immense.  Jonas has done what exactly since joining the club?  I admit that he looks promising but he all the praise showered upon him seems to be a little premature and hypetastic at best.

 

(I'm not stirring here - I just genuinely would prefer Bentley at the club)

 

Play 4 games, one of which was a man of the match display at Old Trafford. Give him a chance eh? Bentley is certainly not a country mile better at all.

 

I have not written him off.  That is not what I said. 

 

For the sake of clarity, I find it hard to humour a comparison between a player that has played "4 games, one of which was a man of the match display" and a player that has performed in the Premiership for the last couple of seasons, has broken into the England squad with some very good performances and has the potential to rip defences to shreds on his day.

 

I'll reconsider my position next season.  Otherwise, Jonas is firmly a "work in progress."  One thing that Toon fans are guilty of is building players up only to stress when they do not reach the lofty heights.

 

But you're not doing a fair comparison are you? Someone who's had 3 seasons is lauded as a country mile better than someone who's had 4 games?

 

Why not compare their first 4 games for both clubs. Bentley would come off as worse than a decroded piece of crap whereas when Jonas has played we've picked up 7 of our lousy 9 points this season. He's the only one who can bring the ball forward at pace and open up space for everyone else and therefore he's vitally important to the team.

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You're right to call Bentley the better player - he's played in this league for a few years now and is proven. You're wrong to write off Jonas off as worse by "a country mile" four games into a career in a new league in a new country for a club which on it's third manager already this season and is in state of disarray.

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