NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 errr....as a supporter of 43 years, I've seen a lot worse, all before the Halls and Shepherd. However, it is your man Souness who started this in motion, do you still think we are better off for the job he did and do you still have your Souness wallpaper on your wall Souness didn't start it, Shepherd did by appointing him. Shepherds record before and after Sir Bobby is crap, Souness was just back to normallity and Roeder is a continuation. (copy & paste) Back to the point in hand and nothing to do with old boards, -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. Well, at least our top players are signing contracts instead of locally born England players wanting to leave, but I'm sure you know best when you say there is no difference between the 2 sets of circumstances, as all long term supporters - cough cough - will be aware of. Have you corrected the WUM regarding his defence of Souness spending contributing to the financial figures yet ? You haven't got the balls to say that you were wrong about Shepherd so you'll back him all of the way, very sad. Now comment on what I've posted many times today and you've so far shown no bottle in attempting to comment other than trying to waffle your way around things, see below. (copy & paste) Back to the point in hand and nothing to do with old boards, -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. I think you should ask your ally the WUM why he hasn't got the balls to admit he was wrong when he backed Souness; spending spree. And - I have not defended anyone or backed anyone. I have only pointed out from day 1 that having a board who backs their managers is a damn sight better than one that doesn't. I am still waiting for you to show how this isn't true, although being a long term supporter - cough cough - you should be aware enough not to dispute it. Why did Cox, Lee, Waddle, Gazza, Beardsley and Pop Robson all want to leave the club ? Being a long term supporter, you should know, do you think they would go now ? I'll give you a clue, ask yourself why Shearer didn't want to leave like they did ..... Sad. And thick to go with it. Not to mention a KK bandwagon jumper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Cant wait to hear NE5s Shepherd defence when we're entertaining Barnsley next August. Well, if you learn to read, I've defended nobody. I'm only explaining to deluded people like you that there are a hell of a lot of possible chairman out there running other big city clubs that are a lot worse off than us. Shame you can't see it like, but you may learn the hard way although obviously I hope not. As the WUM, Mick and nobody else, can name these people who are automatically going to win cups - like we always did - and ride to the rescue, perhaps you can ? bluesleep.gif I can see quite a few little town clubs above us at the minute , have they got better chariman? well, at the minute, they have had a few better results. If it goes on for 20-odd years, you may have a point. Long term supporters should understand the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Oh do be quiet you daft goat. Shepherd has appointed a string of crap managers and given the to a series of awful big money buys. You continual defence of Shepherd and his board is absolutely laughable. I'm pretty sure you would never have the cajones to spout this drivel in the pub as you'd be laughed out of the place....and then barred for good measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 The club has gone wrong since appointing Souness, before that we were moving along and doing quite well but were in a position where we could have moved upwards further if a better choice of manager had been made. The decline in income clearly started two years before Fat Fred appointed Souness. Why are you on a thread about the club's finances if you haven't even read the information about the club's finances? eeer.....I believe figures were put up a year ago, when your hero was doing such a good job clearing out the cancer that would leave us better off, according to you, which showed conclusively that the club had spent a lot of money getting back into the Champions League during the previous 2-3 years, despite you saying you thought money was still available in the summer of 2003. So if you are opposing the club spending money it doesn't have, why did you do it then ? we're in a relegation battle for the second season running. I hope you're happy. eeer....no. YOU wanted the funding of Souness and the sale of Bellamy, not me. Eerr... no. YOU are happy with a board that has pissed away everything and left us in a relegation place, with a crap manager we probably can't afford to sack, and no money to strengthen the team. It's certainly not something that most supporters are happy about. errr....as a supporter of 43 years, I've seen a lot worse As a reader of lots of posts, I've read some that are even more stupid than yours. Doesn't make you intelligent, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Never mind cups, i would settle for someone who would run the club in a competent and professional manner. eer....so does everyone else, lots of other big city clubs in fact ie Leeds, Mackems, Everton, Man City, Derby, Forest, Sheff Wed, West ham, Wolves, Birmingham, Southampton, Portsmouth, and others who are a lot smaller than us were but massively superior when - according to Mick - we had a board no better or worse than the current board, who would like to qualify for Europe regularly and buy England players ? Who do you have in mind ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I think you should ask your ally the WUM why he hasn't got the balls to admit he was wrong when he backed Souness; spending spree. And - I have not defended anyone or backed anyone. I have only pointed out from day 1 that having a board who backs their managers is a damn sight better than one that doesn't. I am still waiting for you to show how this isn't true, although being a long term supporter - cough cough - you should be aware enough not to dispute it. Why did Cox, Lee, Waddle, Gazza, Beardsley and Pop Robson all want to leave the club ? Being a long term supporter, you should know, do you think they would go now ? I'll give you a clue, ask yourself why Shearer didn't want to leave like they did ..... Sad. And thick to go with it. Not to mention a KK bandwagon jumper. Liar, you've defended Shepherd throughout and you're still doing it now while trying to distance yourself from that stance. Is a board that appoints and backs Souness better than one that wouldn't give him £50million, leaving the club in massive debt and threatening the club itself? (copy & paste) Back to the point in hand and nothing to do with old boards, -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 The club has gone wrong since appointing Souness, before that we were moving along and doing quite well but were in a position where we could have moved upwards further if a better choice of manager had been made. The decline in income clearly started two years before Fat Fred appointed Souness. Why are you on a thread about the club's finances if you haven't even read the information about the club's finances? eeer.....I believe figures were put up a year ago, when your hero was doing such a good job clearing out the cancer that would leave us better off, according to you, which showed conclusively that the club had spent a lot of money getting back into the Champions League during the previous 2-3 years, despite you saying you thought money was still available in the summer of 2003. So if you are opposing the club spending money it doesn't have, why did you do it then ? we're in a relegation battle for the second season running. I hope you're happy. eeer....no. YOU wanted the funding of Souness and the sale of Bellamy, not me. Eerr... no. YOU are happy with a board that has pissed away everything and left us in a relegation place, with a crap manager we probably can't afford to sack, and no money to strengthen the team. It's certainly not something that most supporters are happy about. errr....as a supporter of 43 years, I've seen a lot worse As a reader of lots of posts, I've read some that are even more stupid than yours. Doesn't make you intelligent, though. have you got the balls to admit you've taken down your Souness wallpaper yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I think you should ask your ally the WUM why he hasn't got the balls to admit he was wrong when he backed Souness; spending spree. And - I have not defended anyone or backed anyone. I have only pointed out from day 1 that having a board who backs their managers is a damn sight better than one that doesn't. I am still waiting for you to show how this isn't true, although being a long term supporter - cough cough - you should be aware enough not to dispute it. Why did Cox, Lee, Waddle, Gazza, Beardsley and Pop Robson all want to leave the club ? Being a long term supporter, you should know, do you think they would go now ? I'll give you a clue, ask yourself why Shearer didn't want to leave like they did ..... Sad. And thick to go with it. Not to mention a KK bandwagon jumper. Liar, you've defended Shepherd throughout and you're still doing it now while trying to distance yourself from that stance. Is a board that appoints and backs Souness better than one that wouldn't give him £50million, leaving the club in massive debt and threatening the club itself? (copy & paste) Back to the point in hand and nothing to do with old boards, -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. :lol:I think you're a liar saying you're a long term supporter of the club. That is based on the fact you know SFA about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Cant wait to hear NE5s Shepherd defence when we're entertaining Barnsley next August. I'm only explaining to deluded people like you that there are a hell of a lot of possible chairman out there running other big city clubs that are a lot worse off than us. Obviously there are chairmen who are even worse. Just as obviously, there are chairmen who are much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Never mind cups, i would settle for someone who would run the club in a competent and professional manner. eer....so does everyone else, lots of other big city clubs in fact ie Leeds, Mackems, Everton, Man City, Derby, Forest, Sheff Wed, West ham, Wolves, Birmingham, Southampton, Portsmouth, and others who are a lot smaller than us were but massively superior when - according to Mick - we had a board no better or worse than the current board, who would like to qualify for Europe regularly and buy England players ? Who do you have in mind ? At the time of your post we were below clubs like West Ham who you mention, Reading, Bolton, Portsmouth who you mention, Everton who you mention, Wigan, Fulham, Villa, Blackburn, Boro, Watford & Sheffield United, to name just a few, I didn't name the other 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I think you should ask your ally the WUM why he hasn't got the balls to admit he was wrong when he backed Souness; spending spree. And - I have not defended anyone or backed anyone. I have only pointed out from day 1 that having a board who backs their managers is a damn sight better than one that doesn't. I am still waiting for you to show how this isn't true, although being a long term supporter - cough cough - you should be aware enough not to dispute it. Why did Cox, Lee, Waddle, Gazza, Beardsley and Pop Robson all want to leave the club ? Being a long term supporter, you should know, do you think they would go now ? I'll give you a clue, ask yourself why Shearer didn't want to leave like they did ..... Sad. And thick to go with it. Not to mention a KK bandwagon jumper. Liar, you've defended Shepherd throughout and you're still doing it now while trying to distance yourself from that stance. Is a board that appoints and backs Souness better than one that wouldn't give him £50million, leaving the club in massive debt and threatening the club itself? (copy & paste) Back to the point in hand and nothing to do with old boards, -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. :lol:I think you're a liar saying you're a long term supporter of the club. That is based on the fact you know SFA about it. I take it that you agree then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Oh do be quiet you daft goat. Shepherd has appointed a string of crap managers and given the to a series of awful big money buys. You continual defence of Shepherd and his board is absolutely laughable. I'm pretty sure you would never have the cajones to spout this drivel in the pub as you'd be laughed out of the place....and then barred for good measure. I am glad you think a manager who has won 4 league titles, 2 FA Cups and 3 manager of the year awards is a crap appointment. Along with another who won the FA Cup in his first job and left the team in the top 3 of the league. Then the next who was a manager known and reputable in the world game. Perhaps you can name people more suitably qualified ? And - I am also pleased you appear to be happy with the fact that you think the board of a football club should interfere with their managers professional judgement. I hope you don't make adverse comments in future that say the opposite. You can name me the board guaranteed to win us the cups we always did before 1992 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Cant wait to hear NE5s Shepherd defence when we're entertaining Barnsley next August. I'm only explaining to deluded people like you that there are a hell of a lot of possible chairman out there running other big city clubs that are a lot worse off than us. Obviously there are chairmen who are even worse. Just as obviously, there are chairmen who are much better. Still got your Souness wallpaper up then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 NE5, -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 You can name me the board guaranteed to win us the cups we always did before 1992 now. Name me the board that have won cups after 1992. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 You can name me the board guaranteed to win us the cups we always did before 1992 now. Name me the board that have won cups after 1992. I can name you a board that has attempted to win them, and a board that didn't, and one that lost locally born England internationals because they wanted to leave, and one that didn't, ... and one that qualified more for europe in a decade more than the previous 30 ... Shame you think we have a divine right to win trophies, classic mentality of a KK bandwagon jumper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 It fucking amazes me that some people, the usual suspects, still try to defend FFS!!! The club is rapidly going down the pan and, like in all business, the buck stops at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I can name you a board that has attempted to win them, and a board that didn't, and one that didn't lose locally born England internationals because they wanted to leave, and one that did, ... and one that qualified more for europe than the previous 30 ... Shame you think we have a divine right to win trophies, classic mentality of a KK bandwagon jumper Shame you think Shepherd has a divine right to failure, also shame you seem to be skipping so many posts and coming out with the usual rubbish. -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 It fucking amazes me that some people, the usual suspects, still try to defend FFS!!! The club is rapidly going down the pan and, like in all business, the buck stops at the top. I think you should learn to read. I also think its fucking amazing that people like you appear when the club is having a tough time then disappear when they are winning. And also continues to avoid giving alternatives to the current board and name the replacements that will guarantee to put the club into the top 4 permanently which is what you appear to think is automatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 It ****ing amazes me that some people, the usual suspects, still try to defend FFS!!! The club is rapidly going down the pan and, like in all business, the buck stops at the top. I think you should learn to read. I also think its ****ing amazing that people like you appear when the club is having a tough time then disappear when they are winning. And also continues to avoid giving alternatives to the current board and name the replacements that will guarantee to put the club into the top 4 permanently which is what you appear to think is automatic. -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I can name you a board that has attempted to win them, and a board that didn't, and one that didn't lose locally born England internationals because they wanted to leave, and one that did, ... and one that qualified more for europe than the previous 30 ... Shame you think we have a divine right to win trophies, classic mentality of a KK bandwagon jumper Shame you think Shepherd has a divine right to failure, also shame you seem to be skipping so many posts and coming out with the usual rubbish. -18 leauge places, - £millions to prop up Cameron Hall and the Shepherd pension fund, heading for the second division, defend that. Why did Cox, Lee, Beardsley, Waddle, Gazza and Pop Robson all leave the club, and why did Shearer not ? Unless you think you know the club better than Shearer..... Defend that. Your ally the WUM can tell us why he still defends Souness too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Why did Cox, Lee, Beardsley, Waddle, Gazza and Pop Robson all leave the club, and why did Shearer not ? Unless you think you know the club better than Shearer..... Defend that. Your ally the WUM can tell us why he still defends Souness too. What has that got to do with Shepherd and us being 2nd bottom of the league, we look like getting relegated while running up the biggest losses in the history of our club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Why did Cox, Lee, Beardsley, Waddle, Gazza and Pop Robson all leave the club, and why did Shearer not ? Unless you think you know the club better than Shearer..... Defend that. Your ally the WUM can tell us why he still defends Souness too. What has that got to do with Shepherd and us being 2nd bottom of the league, we look like getting relegated while running up the biggest losses in the history of our club? That is one for your ally, the WUM to answer, who wanted it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Why did Cox, Lee, Beardsley, Waddle, Gazza and Pop Robson all leave the club, and why did Shearer not ? Unless you think you know the club better than Shearer..... Defend that. Your ally the WUM can tell us why he still defends Souness too. What has that got to do with Shepherd and us being 2nd bottom of the league, we look like getting relegated while running up the biggest losses in the history of our club? That is one for your ally, the WUM to answer, who wanted it You're a hypocritical bottler who can't admit to being wrong about Shepherd, you've no credibility at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I think we should thank NE5 for demonstrating so consistently that the pro-Shepherd case is subscribed to only by morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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