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Mick

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  1. Need a pact at the next GE. Greens don't field any candidates except Lucas, Lib Dems only field candidates in seats where they're bigger than Labour. Both parties endorse Labour on the understanding that PR would be introduced if we win. Get the SNP involved too if they support it, if not just don't field candidates where they're better placed to beat the Tories than us or the Lib Dems. Easy. I doubt that the SNP would be interested in PR, they would only have 20 MP's instead of 35 under PR. Out of interest if we'd had PR based on percentage of voters for each party for the last election the Winners and losers would have been: Winners. Liberals, +36. UKIP, +12. Greens, +10. Socialist Party, +2. Ulster Unionist, +1. Losers. Conservative, -42. SNP, -15. DUP, -4. Labour, -2. Sinn Fein, -2. Plaid Cymru, -1. Personally, I have no interest in a system where you vote for 2nd & 3rd choices. I had to vote for my 2nd choice at this election, so presumably you're a big supporter of proportional representation. This is half the problem, people don't even know what they're talking about. PR is the only fair system now, and it's well capable of keeping constituency elections. You vote for your constituency MP, then vote for a party list. Is future. Not even remotely convinced those numbers are right either. I'm sure UKIP would've got 80 odd seats in a PR election last time out. Did you need to have a go twice about the same thing? You are being a pain in the arse trying to pick holes with people who don't think Corbyn is the best thing for the Labour party. You don't like people holding different views you your own and you need to grow up, it's pathetic. This place really isn't worth spending time on anymore. If you don't agree with the numbers then work them out and prove it wrong. All of the number are available in the public domain and the calculations are simple enough to do. 650 Mp's were elected and over 32 million votes were cast so even basic maths tells you that UKIP would have needed over 3.2 million votes (10%) go gain 65 seats (10%) which is less than the 80 you've mentioned, they gained less than 600,000 votes.
  2. Yep, no idea what he's talking about. Clearly. I do know the difference between PR and AV, I'm sure the last time electoral reform was discussed AV was the proposal and it's not something that I would personally like, I have nothing against PR.
  3. OK, I'm surprised at that as they'll lose out from it.
  4. Need a pact at the next GE. Greens don't field any candidates except Lucas, Lib Dems only field candidates in seats where they're bigger than Labour. Both parties endorse Labour on the understanding that PR would be introduced if we win. Get the SNP involved too if they support it, if not just don't field candidates where they're better placed to beat the Tories than us or the Lib Dems. Easy. I doubt that the SNP would be interested in PR, they would only have 20 MP's instead of 35 under PR. Out of interest if we'd had PR based on percentage of voters for each party for the last election the Winners and losers would have been: Winners. Liberals, +36. UKIP, +12. Greens, +10. Socialist Party, +2. Ulster Unionist, +1. Losers. Conservative, -42. SNP, -15. DUP, -4. Labour, -2. Sinn Fein, -2. Plaid Cymru, -1. Personally, I have no interest in a system where you vote for 2nd & 3rd choices.
  5. Gouffran ? If I'm right he'll have kept Gouffran as a cheap option who isn't likely to play much.
  6. My sons mates mother was held at knife-point by this bloke, he might have problems but she didn't deserve that shit.
  7. She's arrogant and delusional.
  8. I didn't expect this, if Rafa wants him it can only be as a backup player on the cheap and a bit of 'better the devil you know'.
  9. I thought Rafa might have kept him as he seemed to like him, a good thing from this is that it shows that Rafa is brutal and will only keep players who he feels will make a contribution.
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