Heron Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Cheers. I just haven't had anyone really read it over and give feedback so was trying to get some of you lot to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 All very well in theory, but in many ways, the horse has bolted... Our reputation today has declined further, so it will be even more of an uphill task - and take years - to persuade young players that we are a club they should join instead of Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool etc. the problem being trying to get through to kids and parents that they may have more opportunity at the B&W's/ lower league clubs as opposed to those mentioned. The main problem is that the kids themselves would see NUFC as a booby prize if they also had the chance to join the top 4 - plus the fact that, as I said, our reputation with young players will be used to scupper our chances by the scouts of other clubs... Just because IN THEORY youngsters may get more first team opportunities with NUFC/Lower div clubs doesn't mean that the kids will be any keener to go there - it will take YEARS to alter people's views on Newcastle United as a breeding ground for young talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 All very well in theory, but in many ways, the horse has bolted... Our reputation today has declined further, so it will be even more of an uphill task - and take years - to persuade young players that we are a club they should join instead of Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool etc. the problem being trying to get through to kids and parents that they may have more opportunity at the B&W's/ lower league clubs as opposed to those mentioned. The main problem is that the kids themselves would see NUFC as a booby prize if they also had the chance to join the top 4 - plus the fact that, as I said, our reputation with young players will be used to scupper our chances by the scouts of other clubs... Just because IN THEORY youngsters may get more first team opportunities with NUFC/Lower div clubs doesn't mean that the kids will be any keener to go there - it will take YEARS to alter people's views on Newcastle United as a breeding ground for young talent. no it wouldn't take years. it takes a couple of appointments to the academy (maybe money is already one). it may take years in the fans eyes but not for those klids and parents who see what is happening in the academies. just the way the scouting has changed in the last year or so shows how things have changed so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 All very well in theory, but in many ways, the horse has bolted... Our reputation today has declined further, so it will be even more of an uphill task - and take years - to persuade young players that we are a club they should join instead of Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool etc. the problem being trying to get through to kids and parents that they may have more opportunity at the B&W's/ lower league clubs as opposed to those mentioned. The main problem is that the kids themselves would see NUFC as a booby prize if they also had the chance to join the top 4 - plus the fact that, as I said, our reputation with young players will be used to scupper our chances by the scouts of other clubs... Just because IN THEORY youngsters may get more first team opportunities with NUFC/Lower div clubs doesn't mean that the kids will be any keener to go there - it will take YEARS to alter people's views on Newcastle United as a breeding ground for young talent. no it wouldn't take years. it takes a couple of appointments to the academy (maybe money is already one). it may take years in the fans eyes but not for those klids and parents who see what is happening in the academies. just the way the scouting has changed in the last year or so shows how things have changed so far. Time, as ever, will tell - the problem is that NUFC doesn't HAVE much time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 All very well in theory, but in many ways, the horse has bolted... Our reputation today has declined further, so it will be even more of an uphill task - and take years - to persuade young players that we are a club they should join instead of Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool etc. the problem being trying to get through to kids and parents that they may have more opportunity at the B&W's/ lower league clubs as opposed to those mentioned. The main problem is that the kids themselves would see NUFC as a booby prize if they also had the chance to join the top 4 - plus the fact that, as I said, our reputation with young players will be used to scupper our chances by the scouts of other clubs... Just because IN THEORY youngsters may get more first team opportunities with NUFC/Lower div clubs doesn't mean that the kids will be any keener to go there - it will take YEARS to alter people's views on Newcastle United as a breeding ground for young talent. no it wouldn't take years. it takes a couple of appointments to the academy (maybe money is already one). it may take years in the fans eyes but not for those klids and parents who see what is happening in the academies. just the way the scouting has changed in the last year or so shows how things have changed so far. Time, as ever, will tell - the problem is that NUFC doesn't HAVE much time. the booby prize thing goes for all clubs outside the top 4 but hasn't stopped citeh,boro,west ham bringing through plenty of kids. the fact that we are spending a lot on scouting the world instead of wallsend is a start on showing the way the club is preparing to go. time is one thing you have to have when developing kids,it won't happen overnight but it has started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 There is a risk here of being too pessimistic. Ok, competing with the current top 4 may be difficult at the moment. But to attract young players, all we need is a manager with enthusiasm and a clear vision of where the cluib is going. Take said youngster to our state of the art training complex. Invite them to a game at St. James Park. Sell the fact that they will get an opportunity very early on to play in a fantastic stadium in front of nearly 50,000 fans. Perhaps those who only go to home games (or not at all) may not appreciate this, but most of the grounds in the Premier League are either soulless retail parks, or absolute dumps in the middle of nowhere. How we manage to lose out on players who have chosen to go to clubs like Spurs, Portsmouth, Wigan etc. is beyond me. It can only be the perceived managerial chaos which scares them off. Put that right, and it shouldn't be too difficult to become an attractive proposition again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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