Guest Know_All Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Think we've rumbled 'Know_Alls' cover, Kezmen. He hasn't returned since! So he's either big fat burly 'Teeth Girl' chasing security guard at the academy, or the little anger baldy dwarf who hates Kezmens security guard of the tunnel at the stadium. You are absoultely nowhere near the mark guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Ah nee worries, if you are genuine 'insider' of the academy, probably best you don't blow your cover. Not that anyone really important reads this thread, surely? Just share what you know and help me get Football Manager 11 spot on! Confirm this year's group of lads moving from U16s to U18s? Currently have it as: Lee Ryan-Toland Alex Nicholson Remie Streete Michael Hoganson Dennis Knight Jamie Smith Steven Logan Marcus Maddison Scott Mould Wasn't sure about Alex Baird, think he's at Derby now. --- With the overall squad looking like this (guess work for FM11) Newcastle United Reserve/Youth Team 2010/11 Goalkeepers Jak Alnwick Ben Robinson Jamie Smith Defenders RB - Patrick Nzuzi RB/CB - James Tavernier RB/CB - Lee Ryan-Toland CB - Jeff Henderson CB - Stephen Folan CB - Remi Streete CB - Scott Mould LB - Paul Dummett LB - Alex Nicholson Midfielders RW - Michael McCrudden CM - Bradden Inman CM/DM - Greg McDermott CM/ST - Ryan McGorrigan CM/DM - Andy Mogwo CM/DM - Patrick McLaughlin CM - Ryan Page CM - Conor Newton LW - Shane Ferguson LW/ST - Aaron Spear Attackers RW/ST - Samuel Adjei LW/ST - Samuel Ameobi RW/ST - Phil Airey AM/ST - Haris Vuckic ST - Dan Taylor ST - Billy Ions ST - Michael Hoganson ST - Marcus Maddison ST - Dennis Knight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Know_All Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 The only ones i know are Dennis Knight Alex Nicholson Stephen Logan Lee Toland Remi Streete will still be an under 16 And a couple of others who arn't very good You will probably find the 18's wont do very well this season as the new first years and the current second years bar one or two are not that good I think they will struggle. So don't expect them to win that many games or see any good entertaining football. If you go to the academy and reserve games alot, which i know you do, then you will know last season they decided to play more 3rd years and younger pros (4th years if you like) instead of 2nd years in the reserves because of the youth cup. Most of those are not there anymore so the reserve games will become alot better to watch and most probably you will see them win alot of games. You don't realise how good last years 2nd years actually were. Or do you? Some of them will be involved in the pre-season friendlies in some way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Know_All Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 You can take out Micky Mcrudden, he's been released too and add Tozer, Donaldson, Grieve, Leadbitter, Edmundsen, Lua Lua, Soderburg all for the reserves. Most of the 3rd years wont play much under 18 football, if any at all and most of the under 18's arn't good enough to play reserves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 The only ones i know are Dennis Knight Alex Nicholson Stephen Logan Lee Toland Remi Streete will still be an under 16 And a couple of others who arn't very good You will probably find the 18's wont do very well this season as the new first years and the current second years bar one or two are not that good I think they will struggle. So don't expect them to win that many games or see any good entertaining football. If you go to the academy and reserve games alot, which i know you do, then you will know last season they decided to play more 3rd years and younger pros (4th years if you like) instead of 2nd years in the reserves because of the youth cup. Most of those are not there anymore so the reserve games will become alot better to watch and most probably you will see them win alot of games. You don't realise how good last years 2nd years actually were. Or do you? Some of them will be involved in the pre-season friendlies in some way. No we realise how good they were compared to the normal batch that have came through the last 2-3 years (that I've been watching), as we actually got excited about them for once. Well aware that we played the older side of the youth contract too, 1st year pros hardly got a game (Aaron Spear, Ryan Page, Liam Henderson) which bugged me trying to research them for Football Manager (which is why some of them are a bit generic). Expect to see Inman and Vuckic involved in the pre-season games, they were there abouts last season too. Tavernier should get a nod too, though don't rate him as much as binnsy. If Paul Dummett can mentally grow, I'd like to see him given a chance, but at the moment he's very rash and a bit 'Steven Taylor-esque', but he's hardworking and rarely see him lose a header. Not sure Adjei's ready for a step up to 1st team fringes, nothing in Adjei that we don't have in Kazenga LuaLua (who can't make the team at the moment). Interested to see how Dennis Knight does as he's been pretty decent throughout his development - though I think they're dropping him into midfield? No worries about Remie Streete, he's too young for Football Manager this year anyway and is marked 'Not for Extraction' along with Michael Hoganson. You can take out Micky Mcrudden, he's been released too and add Tozer, Donaldson, Grieve, Leadbitter, Edmundsen, Lua Lua, Soderburg all for the reserves. Most of the 3rd years wont play much under 18 football, if any at all and most of the under 18's arn't good enough to play reserves Aye, the list I posted was mainly Youth into Reserves, didn't include players who were already reserves. But wasn't sure about McCrudden though, so thats useful I'll get that sorted for FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Howay Know_All, where you getting all this from, and are you on a register? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Know_All Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I would probably agree with you on who's involved with the 1st team this season Vuckic, Inman and Tavernier are the only ones who will be anywhere near to getting a game in pre-season but i dont expect any others will. In fact those 3 most likely wont get a game when the season starts and may just get the odd chance to sit on the bench with the likes of Ranger, Donaldson, Tozer and Ferguson. In fact i reckon these 7 along with Lua Lua are the ones who might go out on loan at some stage of the season because there doesn't seem to be many resreve games this season at all. And personally i think Dennis Knight only problem is his effort and temperament otherwise he is a very good player, but have the feeling he could just get too big for his boots.......but we'll see.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Know_All Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Howay Know_All, where you getting all this from, and are you on a register? Because i know it all is true........ Whats the problem? Thought you guys wanted to know a bit truth and not just rumours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Reserves in British football has been dying for a number of years - just too much 'money' to lose when someone gets injured. I'm an advocate for the loan system anyway. Benefits the players getting real football; benefits the parent team as the player is getting full nurturing and development in a 1st team environment, and helps the club taking them on loan (naturally). Much better than being developed in a reserve league with no motivation other than to earn a contract extension. Know_All: Whats the name of the Academy Keeper coach? Been trying to find out for about 8 months now and failed, its doing my head in. Chris .... ? Howay Know_All, where you getting all this from, and are you on a register? Because i know it all is true........ Whats the problem? Thought you guys wanted to know a bit truth and not just rumours? Ho'way man, don't go back to old habits of trying to gain internet fame. Most of what you said is things we sorta knew already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Howay Know_All, where you getting all this from, and are you on a register? Because i know it all is true........ Whats the problem? Thought you guys wanted to know a bit truth and not just rumours? I'm just curious how you know all of this. Normally ITK is followed by an explanation of how you know it. How far back does your knowledge go? Wonder if you know a lad who I went to school with who was in the academy. As for the reserve system I'd like to see the Dutch and Spanish method of 'Ajax II' and Jong Ajax being two separate teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Howay Know_All, where you getting all this from, and are you on a register? Because i know it all is true........ Whats the problem? Thought you guys wanted to know a bit truth and not just rumours? I'm just curious how you know all of this. Normally ITK is followed by an explanation of how you know it. How far back does your knowledge go? Wonder if you know a lad who I went to school with who was in the academy. As for the reserve system I'd like to see the Dutch and Spanish method of 'Ajax II' and Jong Ajax being two separate teams. They'd have to start at the bottom of the pyramid though and would be really unfair to those Unibond players coming up against Future Pros! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Howay Know_All, where you getting all this from, and are you on a register? Because i know it all is true........ Whats the problem? Thought you guys wanted to know a bit truth and not just rumours? As for the reserve system I'd like to see the Dutch and Spanish method of 'Ajax II' and Jong Ajax being two separate teams. Would kill lower league football. Bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Who says it will kill the lower leagues?I think it will only help English talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Who says it will kill the lower leagues?I think it will only help English talent. Not sure about that, the reason they do it in Spain and Holland is that there aren't that many teams at the lower leagues. Where as England as near on 14 levels (with countless sub divisions within the levels) full of amateur/semi-pro teams. For you to drop a team of Premier League Professionals in that is going to disrupt and unbalance the divisions. It'll be fun for a while, but it'll be dishearten when they Billy Painter gets thrashed by Haris Vuckic and his mates (as an example). Just no need for it. It might help the development of pros, but you'd see countless grassroots club just give up shop, which would only hinder English Football in the long haul. Coaches having less teams to develop their practice at. Less options for Ex-Pros, or youngsters that didn't make it to work their way back up too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Who says it will kill the lower leagues?I think it will only help English talent. It would ruin the clubs in the lower leagues and competitiveness, would totally fuck over the fans of clubs in these leagues as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Former Toon youth player Mark Bertram seems to be doing something for the Toon these days (only 20), think its just football in the community or something. He was doing the same 1st Aid Course as me today, a guy called Andrew Dobie was there too - though didn't recognise the name/face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Former Toon youth player Mark Bertram seems to be doing something for the Toon these days (only 20), think its just football in the community or something. He was doing the same 1st Aid Course as me today, a guy called Andrew Dobie was there too - though didn't recognise the name/face. Why didn't you ask him what he was doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Rude! But he did mention something about Community Football over the Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Just ask man, that's how I used to get a fair bit of info. When Robbie Elliott and Mark Hulse joined I just went and stood by the dugout at a pre season game and asked them what their roles were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Just ask man, that's how I used to get a fair bit of info. When Robbie Elliott and Mark Hulse joined I just went and stood by the dugout at a pre season game and asked them what their roles were. "Robbie! ROBBIE!" "Aye?" "What the fuck do you do? Fucking hell man." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Just ask man, that's how I used to get a fair bit of info. When Robbie Elliott and Mark Hulse joined I just went and stood by the dugout at a pre season game and asked them what their roles were. "Robbie! ROBBIE!" "Aye?" "What the fuck do you do? Fucking hell man." Haha it wasn't quite like that, ended up chatting to him for a good 10 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Going to try it at the reserve games, since the dug outs are on the crowd side at Whitley Park. See if I can finally found out that bloody GK Coach's surname - knew there was something I should have asked Bertram! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heed Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Bertram briefly appeared for Gateshead in pre-season of 08/09 just after he'd been released by Newcastle. He then resurfaced at Northumbria Uni playing for Team Northumbria in the Northern League. They seem to be basing their setup on the USA College system whereby you play for their team and get a funded education at the same time. A few other ex NUFC Reserve/Youths have appeared for them in recent times, Dean Critchlow? and I think Kieron Wrightson maybe there now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I think they get paid to play as well you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Didn't Chris Basham turn his career back on track there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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