colinmk Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Strange that it's now 'stating the obvious' when as little as two days ago so many were still deluding themselves that he was totally wrong. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players How's that, man? What's to not understand? Are you happy he is having digs at our new players? Joey7Barton Joseph Barton @ @aknufc95 selling their assets and replacing with cheaper gambles. Santon?? 16 games since 2008, in a poor Italian league, hardly proven PL You're a bit precious if you think that's a dig, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Strange that it's now 'stating the obvious' when as little as two days ago so many were still deluding themselves that he was totally wrong. Agreed. Not completely sure this is entirely correct either. Many people who have been saying the board just want to sell our best players, want to sign people on the cheap etc.. got excited over our last minute "move" for Ruiz. Just because you have a lapse in reality and let yourself get deluded in the heat of the moment doesn't mean that deep down you have guessed all along it won't happen and your intitial beliefs were correct. I am one of the more optimistic posters but said quite a while ago that I don't think we will be getting a forward due to Pardews comments and the way it dragged on. That opinion changed a few times as different things were said from different media sources leading up to the end of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players How's that, man? What's to not understand? Are you happy he is having digs at our new players? Joey7Barton Joseph Barton @ @aknufc95 selling their assets and replacing with cheaper gambles. Santon?? 16 games since 2008, in a poor Italian league, hardly proven PL You're a bit precious if you think that's a dig, like. If you don't see that naming a player personally and mocking (incorrectly) their achievements is a dig then, well,I don't know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Agree, that's pure mocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 We replaced one of the absolute best left-backs in the league with a Italian youngster who have been stalling the last couple of years and hardly played - at all. Im hopeful he will turn out to be the player everyone makes him out to be, but to say this is something other than a downgrade ( and arguably a massive gamble) would be to deceive yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Been sick of Barton for a while now like, his pseudo-intellectual bullshit was embarrassing enough when he played for us, now his bitter digs are just pathetic. He's acting like a self-pitying bloke who's just been dumped by the fittest girlfriend he'll ever have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Agree, that's pure mocking. He is saying he is not PL-proven, that goes for all new foreigners. Dunno if that is mocking like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 We replaced one of the absolute best left-backs in the league with a Italian youngster who have been stalling the last couple of years and hardly played - at all. Im hopeful he will turn out to be the player everyone makes him out to be, but to say this is something other than a downgrade ( and arguably a massive gamble) would be to deceive yourself. Don't think anyone has said it isn't a step down from Enrique at this moment in time. Players or ex players shouldn't be saying such things in the public eye though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players How's that, man? What's to not understand? Are you happy he is having digs at our new players? Joey7Barton Joseph Barton @ @aknufc95 selling their assets and replacing with cheaper gambles. Santon?? 16 games since 2008, in a poor Italian league, hardly proven PL You're a bit precious if you think that's a dig, like. If you don't see that naming a player personally and mocking (incorrectly) their achievements is a dig then, well,I don't know Are you reading the same thing as me? He's pointed out that the lad is a gamble, and doesn't have any PL experience. Whether that's right or wrong (it's right, btw), it's certainly not 'mocking' him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I think there is some distance between saying he is unproven and havent played much, and saying he is shit. Quite some distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players How's that, man? What's to not understand? Are you happy he is having digs at our new players? Joey7Barton Joseph Barton @ @aknufc95 selling their assets and replacing with cheaper gambles. Santon?? 16 games since 2008, in a poor Italian league, hardly proven PL You're a bit precious if you think that's a dig, like. If you don't see that naming a player personally and mocking (incorrectly) their achievements is a dig then, well,I don't know Are you reading the same thing as me? He's pointed out that the lad is a gamble, and doesn't have any PL experience. Whether that's right or wrong (it's right, btw), it's certainly not 'mocking' him. For a start it doesn't need to be said, secondly if that comment was posted on here by someone like KingDawson or Wearside they would have been ripped apart. The fact that is comes from Joey "Ashley Slayer" Barton seems to change the context though. I don't see how people think it's right to comment on other teams players like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Barton is a cool lad. I believe he cares about our club. I respect him. I will applaud him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Joey "Ashley Slayer" Barton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Agree, that's pure mocking. He is saying he is not PL-proven, that goes for all new foreigners. Dunno if that is mocking like. Don't know if it's the right term, but he's enhancing himself whilst pointing out Santon as "cheap" and "a gamble" in addition to mocking the Italian league, which is one of the saddest and oldest "arguments" out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ovesbar Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 We replaced one of the absolute best left-backs in the league with a Italian youngster who have been stalling the last couple of years and hardly played - at all. Im hopeful he will turn out to be the player everyone makes him out to be, but to say this is something other than a downgrade ( and arguably a massive gamble) would be to deceive yourself. Yes, and everybody knows that Smith is a waste of space, but if a former team mate with 500 000 followers on twitter would tweet it, there is a chance it would be disturbing to the player himself and his teammates. Just an example of course. Anyway Joey Barton owes a lot to this club and even the people running it. If they did what most clubs would have done and sacked him when in prison, how many clubs would have taken the chance and signed him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players How's that, man? What's to not understand? Are you happy he is having digs at our new players? Joey7Barton Joseph Barton @ @aknufc95 selling their assets and replacing with cheaper gambles. Santon?? 16 games since 2008, in a poor Italian league, hardly proven PL You're a bit precious if you think that's a dig, like. If you don't see that naming a player personally and mocking (incorrectly) their achievements is a dig then, well,I don't know Are you reading the same thing as me? He's pointed out that the lad is a gamble, and doesn't have any PL experience. Whether that's right or wrong (it's right, btw), it's certainly not 'mocking' him. For a start it doesn't need to be said, secondly if that comment was posted on here by someone like KingDawson or Wearside they would have been ripped apart. The fact that is comes from Joey "Ashley Slayer" Barton seems to change the context though. I don't see how people think it's right to comment on other teams players like this What the fuck, man. Going off on a bit of a straw man tangent there, like. Why is it wrong for one player to comment on another? Is it still wrong if it's positive? If you want an example of one of our players mocking another teams player, have a look at Danny Simpson calling Dzeko 'pony'. Don't remember you going off it about that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I see nothing wrong with that. A dig from one talented fotballer..... to another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I wasn't happy with Simpson saying that either and I am fairly certain I commented on that. However is it any surprise I would be more pissed off with someone slagging of OUR players? It's unprofessional of Barton and the "straw man" point is, some aren't see it as a dig because of who said it. If Cattermole tweeted it people would go fucking mad, some seem to want to stick their head in the sand about Barton because he has a dig at the board and if someone does that they can't do wrong. Will look forward to seeing how far people will go to defend our former player if he continues to tweet the way he is and starts mentioning our players again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 If Cattermole had a dig at the people running our club I would support it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 If Cattermole had a dig at the people running our club I would support it too. I was talking about the Santon and Cabaye comments but it wouldn't surprise me if Cattermole was given free reign by some if he had a dig about the board, that seems to be the most important thing at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 cajun..... the majority on this board love everything negative that happens to the club, we both know this. Most our fans prefers to have a good moan than look on the positives. Its the reason why we will never progress. Christ most of these people probably whinged when bobby finished 5th, just don't get riled by them fella, or else this board becomes insanity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'll defend him whenever I see a precious individual taking his comments out of context to suit a personal agenda. That's because I don't believe, against the increasingly popular opinion, that he is the Devil. Just because he's a footballer, and an ex-player, doesn't mean he does not have the right to comment on what he likes. If he takes it too far, then yeah, I'd slate him. But, there's nothing wrong with what he's said up until now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 On the other hand, some people on here seems to be thinking that while Ashley and Dekka are absolute cretins, for what its worth they are OUR cretins, and that seems to be the most important thing at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'll defend him whenever I see a precious individual taking his comments out of context to suit a personal agenda. That's because I don't believe, against the increasingly popular opinion, that he is the Devil. Just because he's a footballer, and an ex-player, doesn't mean he does not have the right to comment on what he likes. If he takes it too far, then yeah, I'd slate him. But, there's nothing wrong with what he's said up until now. If you are happy with him commenting on our players fair enough, personally I think he is a cunt for doing it and needs to move on. Don't think you can seriously talk about taking things out of context though because of a personal agenda mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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