OoOGazOoO Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Newcastle manager Alan Pardew is understood to have approached French club Lille about the possibility of securing both Moussa Sow and Gervinho on a deal that would result in the pair spearheading a £40m-rated Magpies attack next season. http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/858932-moussa-sow-and-gervinho-subject-to-40m-newcastle-transfer-enquiry#ixzz1HShbQgzU Looks like Pardew has been playing with the editor on Football Manager again. Why doesnt he just make himself the manager of Lille and transfer them for £100k each, novice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 He might score a lot, but how many goals has he cost us? Not saying he has cost us any, just wondering. Generally when our midfield gets over run its his fault. So a fair few I reckon, maybe more than he's scored. Hey, it doesnt matter how many goals and overran midfields he has cost us. he scores goals hence there must be more pressing issues, ask roger kint You are clueless, stick to simulating sex with mannequins and stop embarrassing yourself with this rubbish. I think we just disagree on the issue. I cant think of a bigger one than being overrun in the middle. It shapes the games ( we lose). You seem to think we have other issues who needs adressing first. I dont. End of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 If you cant see that our most pressing issue is signing a striker then i strongly urge you to give up this sport alltogether, its clearly beyond you and this is not taking into account the probable loss of our ONLY LB this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't see why you have to get so personal about it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Newcastle manager Alan Pardew is understood to have approached French club Lille about the possibility of securing both Moussa Sow and Gervinho on a deal that would result in the pair spearheading a £40m-rated Magpies attack next season. http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/858932-moussa-sow-and-gervinho-subject-to-40m-newcastle-transfer-enquiry#ixzz1HShbQgzU Don´t know much about Sow? Gervinho looks like a good player which i would like us to sign! But 40 mill for them both seems desperate....that is a lot of money! Are they really worth 20 mill each?? Even 20 mill for Gervinho seems to be 5-10 mill to much, i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't see why you have to get so personal about it like. Very tame compared to most people's personal remarks on here, thanks for your continued attention though. Besides it was only in response to him thinking my very reasonable assertion that replacing Nolan is not our priority was comical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't see why you have to get so personal about it like. Everyone who disagrees with him should appearently leave this board and take up chess instead =\ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Put it this way, if we start next season without signing a quality striker I will be shitting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't see why you have to get so personal about it like. Everyone who disagrees with him should appearently leave this board and take up chess instead =\ More complete and utter dogshit from you, consistency over quality i see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Put it this way, if we start next season without signing a quality striker I will be shitting it. You must be as thick as me then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Put it this way, if we start next season without signing a quality striker I will be shitting it. we wont Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't see why you have to get so personal about it like. Everyone who disagrees with him should appearently leave this board and take up chess instead =\ More complete and utter dogshit from you, consistency over quality i see. Who needs opposite team fans when you have fellow fans like you. Nice forum contributions mate, regards from Norway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 You are mixing up future pressing issues and what makes us lose games right here and now. Sure, LB position is a big`un this summer, as well as getting a proper Premier league strikeforce. But thats not what keeps us in or out of the top division right now. We score goals, and we have a LB. There is no point in scoring a goal if we concede 2, like against everton. Im not saying Nolan is solely to blame for an overran midfield...or actually I am, but in a 4-4-2 system with barton on the right in a Beckham-kinda role, I want Tiote assigned to DEFENSIVE duties only. For that to happen we need a CM who can dominate in a, yeah, Van der Vaart-ish way. I agree with you that LB and strikers are a priority, but I disagree with you that its the most pressing issue right now. As of now we need to win the battle for the midfield, and while we cant do anything about it since we have a shitload of injuries and are outside of transfer season, im simply pointing out that Nolans lack of capacity is making that very hard for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think the players we have returning, Ben Arfa and Gosling, along with the possible debut of Ireland, will have a big impact on whether we sign an attacking midfielder. I agree with Flatline about Nolan's limitations, and it would be great to have a more dynamic player in that position, but I get the feeling we think we might already have enough options there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think the players we have returning, Ben Arfa and Gosling, along with the possible debut of Ireland, will have a big impact on whether we sign an attacking midfielder. I agree with Flatline about Nolan's limitations, and it would be great to have a more dynamic player in that position, but I get the feeling we think we might already have enough options there. The obvious flaw in his comments being nobody at all is saying Nolan is without limitations. This entire discussion revolves around the very simple fact that when it comes to signing players this summer the replacement of Nolan doesnt even rank in the top 2/3 urgent issues. Its baffling that he cant see this yet choses to repeat rubbish that i havent even said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Nothing would make me happier than having a player already in newcastle sorting out the CM. Im grateful what what Nolan do and have done, but I also have the feeling that while he is contributing with goals, he is at the same time limiting the overall capability and potential of the team. To me Nolan is the swansong of the old team, the team who got us promoted but also the very image of where we need to improve, a new paradigm and a new age cannot come before Nolan is on the bench imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Wow, I agree with you both. That must mean you agree with each other really! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think the players we have returning, Ben Arfa and Gosling, along with the possible debut of Ireland, will have a big impact on whether we sign an attacking midfielder. I agree with Flatline about Nolan's limitations, and it would be great to have a more dynamic player in that position, but I get the feeling we think we might already have enough options there. The obvious flaw in his comments being nobody at all is saying Nolan is without limitations. This entire discussion revolves around the very simple fact that when it comes to signing players this summer the replacement of Nolan doesnt even rank in the top 2/3 urgent issues. Its baffling that he cant see this yet choses to repeat rubbish that i havent even said. Strikers and LB issues arent even up for discussion mate, they are happening, so why bother discussing it. Ashley knows it, Pardew knows it, hell, even the hot dog vendor outside st.james knows it. Why are you pointing it out like as if you are inventing the wheel? Everyone know those issues will be adressed. Regarding the LB, if Enrique stays or leaves, it wont make us a better team or play any differently. We get a replacement, same or inferior quality, point is? We need a new engine in the midfield, aside from the obvious replacements following an enrique and carroll sale, which are, as I said, self-explanatory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Wow, I agree with you both. That must mean you agree with each other really! That would be true in theory however as my stance from the first post was where our priority lies as opposed to what we should do if money was no object then we dont agree at all really, now if he had of read this at the start it would have been nice. The respective talents/limitations of Kevin Nolan were never part of my reasoning here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Strikers and LB issues arent even up for discussion mate, they are happening, so why bother discussing it. Ashley knows it, Pardew knows it, hell, even the hot dog vendor outside st.james knows it. Why are you pointing it out like as if you are inventing the wheel? Everyone know those issues will be adressed. Because you dont know it? I think we just disagree on the issue. I cant think of a bigger one than being overrun in the middle. It shapes the games ( we lose). You seem to think we have other issues who needs adressing first. I dont. End of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think the players we have returning, Ben Arfa and Gosling, along with the possible debut of Ireland, will have a big impact on whether we sign an attacking midfielder. I agree with Flatline about Nolan's limitations, and it would be great to have a more dynamic player in that position, but I get the feeling we think we might already have enough options there. The obvious flaw in his comments being nobody at all is saying Nolan is without limitations. This entire discussion revolves around the very simple fact that when it comes to signing players this summer the replacement of Nolan doesnt even rank in the top 2/3 urgent issues. Its baffling that he cant see this yet choses to repeat rubbish that i havent even said. To be honest, from someone who thinks the best form of defence is attack I think you're both right in equal measures, we need both a striker and an attacking midfielder. Flatline is absolutely spot on about his remarks reagrding Nolan, however an attacking midfielders success is usually related to what he has in front of him. At the momnt we have no genuine focal point, nor do we have much insipred movement which is obviously where a new striker comes into play. For me, if we keep Nolan in the team, you may get 10 goals next season but you'll really affect the balance of the game due to his lack of mobility, or his lack of incivisness. Used this analogy earlier, but its like comparing the qualities of Owen to the qualities of Bellamy. For me there both equally imporatant acquisitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I haven`t said they werent issues. They just aint the biggest ones. We need to change the way we play our games, and thats even more clear now that we dont have a carroll to take the odd hoofball and make a goal out of it. The crux of the matter is that while your views are valid, they ARE being adressed, its simply a matter of which names on the back of the shirt ( which in itself is an issue but a different one). My point of view is unlikely to be adressed at all, we will probably start Nolan as our captain come august and that in my opinion is a problem because no striker or LB in the world will be able to alter the outcome of the midfield clash to come, just the way they handle the incoming balls as a direct result of our midfield being overrun ( again). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 So everyone who disagrees with you over this is wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ive never disagreed with you Roger, aside from the fact that the personal attacks are a bit insulting and annoying, I agree with you. Its just that even with a new LB and a new strikeforce, we will have a rotten trunk seeing as they will NOT get any balls through the middle unless Tiote goes forward ( which I rather not want him to do if it can be helped). They will again be either served by jonas when he gets tired of serving banners, spectators and cornerflags, or they get ( admitted: good) balls from barton. I think this is a clear weakness relating to our CM, the fact that we have no drive through the middle, but are reduced to the flanks in 90% of all our attacks. its rather predictable.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 So everyone who disagrees with you over this is wrong? No, its a point of view. You might think Nolan should be part of our future ideal Midfield, and I would disagree strongly with you. It doesnt mean you ARE wrong, it just means I think you are. what objectively is wrong and right, only god knows ( im an atheist but just for the sake of arguement) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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