Mountain Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Snore off, Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, McCormick said: Hmm. Not sure about him tbh. Really raw and 30m is a lot for midfielder that lacks athleticism and struggles to pass the ball. Yeah tend to agree. Already spent a fair whack on 'potential' in Gordon so think another 30m on another future prospect is a bit steep for me. Need a couple players who will go straight into our starting XI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) We should be all over that for squad depth. Edited May 31, 2023 by Matt1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: Aston Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Meh, he'd probably be an unreal player if he was fully bought in, upped his fitness, etc. But he seems like a headache just waiting to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: We should be all over that for squad depth. Apparently his wage demands are mental. I've heard talk he is after 200k p/w. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, sushimonster85 said: Apparently his wage demands are mental. I've heard talk he is after 200k p/w. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, sushimonster85 said: Apparently his wage demands are mental. I've heard talk he is after 200k p/w. Wouldn’t be surprised on a freebie. Anyway, might have been on the shopping list last couple of windows, doubt he is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Apparently his wage demands are mental. I've heard talk he is after 200k p/w. Also there is no such thing as a free transfer. Signing on fee will be massive also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Wouldn’t be surprised on a freebie. Anyway, might have been on the shopping list last couple of windows, doubt he is now. Interesting point on player’s wages. The agent takes their percentage not just on the transfer fee and/or signing on fee, but also of the entire wages throughout the contract. So if an agent is on say 10% commission for Tielemans, the agent will pocket £20k per week through the contract at £200k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Tielemans will go to someone like Villa or West Ham. As a squad player I'd take him but not on £200k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 One of the main issues last season was that we didn’t have anyone to rotate with Bruno, who could sit deep and play the ball out from the back when needed. Tielemans could do this and open up options in midfield. The other option is that we get someone like Alex Scott who would cost similar over the length of contract when you include his transfer fee, with no idea of how good he could become at the top level. Remember that the young championship player of the year the previous year was Brennan Johnson and there hasn’t been a clamour for his signature on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Aye, Tielemans will want massive wages like. Then there's the danger that his form for Leicester last season is actually the new 'normal'. Villa is a good shout, he can be their next Coutinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, greydos said: Interesting point on player’s wages. The agent takes their percentage not just on the transfer fee and/or signing on fee, but also of the entire wages throughout the contract. So if an agent is on say 10% commission for Tielemans, the agent will pocket £20k per week through the contract at £200k. If it was a £40m fee and £120k per week for three years, then total contract value would be £58.7m, so circa £5.8m for the agent (nice work, if you can get it…). £200k for three years, with no transfer fee, would be circa £3.1m for the agent (both assuming a 52 week payment schedule). Outrageous really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: One of the main issues last season was that we didn’t have anyone to rotate with Bruno, who could sit deep and play the ball out from the back when needed. Tielemans could do this and open up options in midfield. The other option is that we get someone like Alex Scott who would cost similar over the length of contract when you include his transfer fee, with no idea of how good he could become at the top level. Remember that the young championship player of the year the previous year was Brennan Johnson and there hasn’t been a clamour for his signature on here. I would take Johnson for the squad for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Villa with Gerrard as manager I could've seen that but I don't think Emery will want him. I can see him at West Ham for sure or somewhere in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: If it was a £40m fee and £120k per week for three years, then total contract value would be £58.7m, so circa £5.8m for the agent (nice work, if you can get it…). £200k for three years, with no transfer fee, would be circa £3.1m for the agent (both assuming a 52 week payment schedule). Outrageous really. It totally is outrageous, given that being an agent is a largely unregulated business. It just adds a little more perspective on player wage demands. They might be asking for more as they have ongoing liabilities to their agent/staff. It’s a bit like a boxer having to pay trainer’s wages etc out of their fight earnings, the headline figure might not reveal the whole picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 If we’re going to smash our current wage structure, you’d really hope it was for someone better than Tielemans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, SteV said: If we’re going to smash our current wage structure, you’d really hope it was for someone better than Tielemans. I wonder if we’ve previously paid over the odds (salary wise) for players on a free? Have a vague memory of seemingly ridiculous figures being previously leaked but can’t recall who or when. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I wonder if we’ve previously paid over the odds (salary wise) for players on a free? Have a vague memory of seemingly ridiculous figures being previously leaked but can’t recall who or when. Demba Ba? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, McCormick said: Not trying to yuk anyone’s yum here but he wouldn’t displace any of our current midfielders on current ability. Reminds me of Ayoze Perez but playing deeper. I think he'd improve our team by virtue of being a better finisher tbf. Longstaff missed alot of brillaint chances in the box as well as perhaps not having the composure that could have carved out an opportunity and this guy looks to have that about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I wonder if we’ve previously paid over the odds (salary wise) for players on a free? Have a vague memory of seemingly ridiculous figures being previously leaked but can’t recall who or when. Jack Colback being on ~£40k p/w is probably an example none of us want to remember…. *although (tin hat on) I actually thought he was decent in his first season (obviously fell off a cliff and down to the bottom of the sea after that). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'm very wary of any wage prices put on players heads. Often seem to be miles out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 50 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: We should be all over that for squad depth. No thanks, he's tosh other than a few nice long-range strikes per season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Someone might pay Tielemans 200k p/w but it won't be us, thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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