Ranking our Squad - 23 Murphy

[Kid Icarus]

And compare them with each other.

 

Those around us also include Man City, Chelsea, Brighton, Villa all who have spent tons and are below Forest. They're also the only team out of that 3 above us.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, gbandit said:

You say that but I’d have absolutely no confidence assigning ratings for a single player outside of NUFC. I will comment on individual players a lot when I watch them in the “other games” thread but realistically you only know your own players well enough to score

I agree, it would be hard to do it.  Which means that it is harder to assess performance of your own squad.

 

I still think the final count will show that we’ve got a decent squad with some superb players, but some pretty gaping holes in it too.  GK, RCB, RW, CF are not well stocked (allowing for CF having one elite player in it). 

[Kaizero]

Murphy is extremely underrated given the fact the guy's got one of the best assists per minute ratio of any NUFC player in history, and by virtue of that is also holding his own amongst the best assists per minute ratios in modern football as a whole. 

 

He's not a flashy player beyond that ratio though, and I'm quite influenced by the overall consensus about him over the years – meaning that even after learning the above fact, I've still gone with a "C", not a "B"  

[TheBrownBottle]

10 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

Murphy is extremely underrated given the fact the guy's got one of the best assists per minute ratio of any NUFC player in history, and by virtue of that is also holding his own amongst the best assists per minute ratios in modern football as a whole. 

 

He's not a flashy player beyond that ratio though, and I'm quite influenced by the overall consensus about him over the years – meaning that even after learning the above fact, I've still gone with a "C", not a "B"  

‘Assists’ are a weird old metric, though.  They’re a pretty recent introduction, and are borderline meaningless - they imply that the last pass before a goal is the one which creates a goal. 

[Kaizero]

56 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

‘Assists’ are a weird old metric, though.  They’re a pretty recent introduction, and are borderline meaningless - they imply that the last pass before a goal is the one which creates a goal. 

 

"Assists" = "Chance Creation"

 

The ability a player has to create chances for their team is not "borderline meaningless", or a "weird old metric". It's a great measurement of what a player can add to the quality of any given team when playing.

 

 

This season, Jacob Murphy's xA90 has been 0.30 – the player in our squad with the second most assists this season, Guimarães, has an xA90 of 0.20.

 

Murphy's xA90 is the 10th highest of all PL players with 5 or more assists so far this season.

– 11th highest for players with 4 or more.

– 16th highest for players with 3 or more.

– 18th highest for players with 2 or more.

- 27th highest for players with 1 or more.

 

And that's without taking into account if the players are considered "starters" for their teams or not. When applying that metric and only including players with at least 1350 minutes of playing time so far this season (15 games), his xA is the 11th highest of all Premier League players.

 

In addition, his xChain90 is the 47th highest among all players in the Premier League (xChain90 = xG average per 90 minutes from any pass-chain involving the player).

 

And the above is only his stats for this season, his overall stats are even higher. Last season he had the 6th highest xA90 of all players in the Premier League with game time equal to at least 10 matches played.

 

Averaging all measurable "x" stats sees Murphy 47th of all Premier League players this season. If we use that stat as a theoretical measurement to theorise his "level", with each team starting with 10 outfield players, his "team" would be 5th – which by this measurement would make him a must-start player for a team expecting to finish between 3rd and 7th.

 

He's very underrated. So underrated that after breaking down his ability for this post, I've changed my vote from C to B  

[TheBrownBottle]

48 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

"Assists" = "Chance Creation"

 

The ability a player has to create chances for their team is not "borderline meaningless", or a "weird old metric". It's a great measurement of what a player can add to the quality of any given team when playing.

 

 

This season, Jacob Murphy's xA90 has been 0.30 – the player in our squad with the second most assists this season, Guimarães, has an xA90 of 0.20.

 

Murphy's xA90 is the 10th highest of all PL players with 5 or more assists so far this season.

– 11th highest for players with 4 or more.

– 16th highest for players with 3 or more.

– 18th highest for players with 2 or more.

- 27th highest for players with 1 or more.

 

And that's without taking into account if the players are considered "starters" for their teams or not. When applying that metric and only including players with at least 1350 minutes of playing time so far this season (15 games), his xA is the 11th highest of all Premier League players.

 

In addition, his xChain90 is the 47th highest among all players in the Premier League (xChain90 = xG average per 90 minutes from any pass-chain involving the player).

 

And the above is only his stats for this season, his overall stats are even higher. Last season he had the 6th highest xA90 of all players in the Premier League with game time equal to at least 10 matches played.

 

Averaging all measurable "x" stats sees Murphy 47th of all Premier League players this season. If we use that stat as a theoretical measurement to theorise his "level", with each team starting with 10 outfield players, his "team" would be 5th – which by this measurement would make him a must-start player for a team expecting to finish between 3rd and 7th.

 

He's very underrated. So underrated that after breaking down his ability for this post, I've changed my vote from C to B  

Like I said, meaningless