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Never said he shouldn't be in the starting line up did I.

Then your opinion is the same as most. The vast majority just want him in the team because no one is justifiably keeping him out. The whole "OMGZ AMAZINS WORLD BEATER" is in your head.

Standard 4-4-2 is such an outdated tactic and teams that play 3 in the middle easily take advantage of it.

Depends what players you have to play it. Obviously having two wingers that bring virtually nothing offensively is not going to help it work.

Caught a bit of stuff on the radio earlier and they all seemed convinced Beckham to PSG is pretty much done and that Leonardo made it happen by promising Ancelotti would be in charge.

I see. They're saying that if the game is to be completed it would be without the keeper then.

Just that he isn't to face any further charges/suspensions.

They need to be punished for doing so, otherwise it will set a precedent for teams to do the same in the future if they don't agree with an official's decision.

I don't see that as being the case at all given how unique this situation is. The Dutch FA have pretty much said the referee's reaction was a little too hasty by overturning the red.

Wasn't there something like 30-35 minutes played? Can't find a video any more, they're all gone.

Edit: Yes, 36th minute it happened.

Most logical and fairest solution could be to just play the remainder of the match at later date, and in an empty ground.

AVB just now on SSN about WHL: "The crowd gets behind the team and creates total empathy"

How much more work does he need to do to deserve a chance to start and play more regularly in the team?

If you feel it makes no sense how everyone involved seems like a total moron, then you've got it spot on.

The funniest thing is that the quote on that poster is from Morris West, an Australian anti-racist author

Fucking hell. There isn't an ounce of logic or humility from anyone involved in this. Shameful.

We're nothing without him.

Or... We make him what he is!

Seemed like a very generous free kick too. He did what he does so often on the wing. Mince around with the ball, pass up on a chance to give it to someone in a good position over and over until he's stuck in a crowd.

The referee showed no brains whatsoever by following the rule, that's the point. As if he'd get into trouble or punished for not sending the keeper off ffs.

Add to that he showed very little common sense and compassion in the way he handled sending him off. He figuratively kicked him when he was down.

You see that in games already as it is without the mentalists running on. A player will haul himself at another, the guy being attacked just shoves back and both get sent off. It's retarded.

Dalglish has been particularly embarrassing with close to 100% of what he's come out with this season. Senile tosser.

I'm sure he could find more than enough in the rules to back the red card up.

But the way he handled it was obscene. Didn't even try to talk to the lad who just had his personal safety at risk, just waited with his card in his hand. Too many refs are just dumb jobsworths.

Good on the manager for taking everyone off. Agreed there.

Has to fuckin start on monday...HAS to!

We were saying that about Norwich, Swansea and tonight. 

Edit: think I just missed a golden opportunity to use the dead horse smiley!

Nice one ref. How to keep calm and defuse a situation.

Pardew looked really upset. Maybe knows he's to blame.

Starting to lose faith in his ability to learn from mistakes or even see them as mistakes. The whole Raylor over Santon ordeal feels like a long time ago now after all the weird selections and subs there's been since.

We'll whack it long and get fuck all. Ben Arfa might get twenty minutes if he's lucky.

Depressingly likely.

Pardew goes on about Obertan needing a run of games - well he's had 17 now this season.

Becoming funny how tragic that is.

Ba looked at Best and was inspired to belt the free kick into the top corner.

Only a fool would think otherwise. A fool, I tells you.

Winning a game

They really are an embarrassment to the whole league. Club full of utter deluded cretins.

Led by the biggest one of them all.

A hat trick of crappy displays. Merry Christmas to you too, Alan.

Cheers.