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i remember people saying the same (different numbers allowing for inflation)when kegan came first time round...also the mackems were saying it when keane came in that he'd need to spend £30million to avid releagtion from the championship.

nufc-geordie....you raise some good points. 1) he does get caught ball watching,which he often does when playing inother positions. he's not a good enough player with the ball to allow to be poor without it. 2)i saw it as n'zogbia took up some good positions to help duff (as a full back or midfielder should) then stopped. 3) correct but many think hebetter than he has been for the last season and a half. 4) even in his preferred position he does little off the ball and increasingly holds on too much and makes wrong decisions which cut out other players. what is also typical of newcastle united fans( fans of all clubs really) is that when they have a favourite they can't see when he is playing poorly.

WE finished second and went into the champions league? with Keegan's players. As soon as the world class manager was able to bring his own in, we plummeted like a stone. Lest ye forget. even that doesn't tell the whole story,sold ferdinand then had shearer and asprilla out with long term injuries,brought in given,solano,hamman and thomasson. should have been given longer in my view.

what a good idea yorkie. can't believe no-one's thought of putting the fixtures on here before.

are we taking about the van/bus driver on balamory ?

So your not allowed to support a team if your not born there? People can't choose where they are born, but surely they have the right to choose which team they want to support? what country are you from ? honest qusetion and after you answer my back up question will clarify why i'm asking I'm English, born in England too. do you support England ? if so ,why ? Can already see where this is leading, but hey. Yes I support England. I'm English through and through and to support England is to support my fellow countrymen. I also like to see Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland do well in major competitions. Have to say it is a bit different with league football. Let's face it, your not exactly cheering on a starting 11 of local lads at every football ground, in fact these days it's quite a novelty to have a local lad in your starting line, or even an English one for that matter for some clubs. From the stance some people are taking, you could say it’s acceptable to be a part of a football club as a staff member if your not local or from this country, but its not acceptable to be fan if your not local. Why is this? the idea is they represent a geographical area...thats why the vast majority are named after said area and also why the vast majority of football crowds are drawn from said area (yes even man utd). given a footballing world of your view ,only 4 or 5 clubs would still be in existence as everyone (without the geo-pull of the local team)would just support those that they like.....which in 99% of cases are the succesful ones (coincidence ?....i think not).

So your not allowed to support a team if your not born there? People can't choose where they are born, but surely they have the right to choose which team they want to support? what country are you from ? honest qusetion and after you answer my back up question will clarify why i'm asking I'm English, born in England too. do you support England ? if so ,why ?

thats down to movement and nouse....not so much pace. Try sticking 11 turtles together and seeing if they get past 11 hares. 11 clever turtles against 11 thick hares.........aesop as the ref...you know the result. relegation probably. very good come back,short and pithy. but i hope you are wrong.

I agree with most of that except for where we would be with Allerdyce, I don't think we would have a single point more. In some ways I wish he was still here, just so he could get the stick he deserves and suffer the s**** we're having to suffer, instead of sitting at home with all those £millions. :clap: :clap:

Like I said, he needed to sort some things out. And yet we only lost 8 league games. but we wer egoing backwards fast,as the mackems did,under monkeys heed

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The main things Bobby had to sort was Jenas not playing like he did in his first season, a replacement for Nobby who was stupidly sold and a replacement for an ageing Speed who didn't need to be sold for a pittance. We needed to turn draws into wins, I'm sure we only lost 4 league games during the season when we finished 5th, it wasn't many. bobby's last season we were the team who lost most leads....not just in the prem...not just in england but in british league football

thats down to movement and nouse....not so much pace. Try sticking 11 turtles together and seeing if they get past 11 hares. 11 clever turtles against 11 thick hares.........aesop as the ref...you know the result.

that was my choice (faye-n'zogbia in centre mid)

Some, like me would say we didn't, I think he'd have turned us around if given the support to bring the players in that he wanted, we'll never know. Even Arsenal and Man U go through transitional periods under Wenger and Ferguson, why should we have been any different? i equate the change in play and atmosphere to that of peyter reids seacond sunderland season of seventh....for all they finished in the same position many of their fans were calling for a change....they didnt and we all know what came next. it's all subjective but i saw us going downwards from that time.....at that time i didnt know souness would take over mind.

David Moyes is the type of manager we should be aiming for. Sadly we're unable to attract a manager of his calibre to this club I feel. FWIW i dont think jose was a tactical genius in this country but he had more to spend than everyone else,give keeagn the same and we'll not be thinking of relegation next season

thats down to movement and nouse....not so much pace.

some,like me would say the club started going backwards throughout his last season.

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their pace is up top....not on their feet,its not like rooney is a bellamy,granted hes quicker thatn viduka but you wouldnt mark pace as an asset (same for tevez)

Honestly, my support over the last 20 years cannot be questioned and that obviously includes through thick and thin. I saw us battle despite being 4-1 down at Derby in 1992 with 8 men. Despite a rotten result, the team played their hearts out. Today was an abject surrender and to clap at the end as if we had something to appreciate was shameful. And people wonder why other fans take the piss. got to admit i never clapped...a minute before the end i left,head bowed and abject

you have the wrong idea ...that was a celebration of of support,as we done in 74 and 76. ("you've beat us on the pitch but you'll not beat us" type of thing)

voted "no" because i cant see all those behind us overtaking us (perversly it is allardyces points that could keep us up)

We have no pace in the front 6. Duff has a bit of pace, but he only runs slightly fast in useless positions, ie when hes running up to a player. rooney and tevez don't have pace but have nouse........thats what kills you.

i wonder if they were clapping man utd,best performance i've seen at SJP in a long while(even better that the 2-6)