madras

what about teams from other leagues? :sad1: people surely can have a favorite from la liga or whatever. just have to be all NUFC should we meet in the intertoto! Why would you want to support a team form somewhere you weren't from? Fuckin hate that "support your local team" bullshit... I want to support a team that entertains me. I don't give a f***, where they're from... does that mean if they stop entertaining you'll go elsewhere ?

the arsenal one and watching john "the absolute horrible b******" aldridge refuse to shake hands with paul davis walking off the pitch,only months after ruffling brian laws hair and giving him a thumbs up after an OG in the hillsbrough semi replay. if you cant take it. dont give it. (on my birthday aswell,in corfu,on my first med holiday,dancing on a table as the 2nd went in in a blur of amstel,ouzo and meze's)

what about teams from other leagues? :sad1: people surely can have a favorite from la liga or whatever. just have to be all NUFC should we meet in the intertoto! Why would you want to support a team form somewhere you weren't from? Second teams from anywhere is bad enough, but another in the EPL, as the first poster clearly has, is mental. So what if I don't live in Newcastle? I've followed Newcastle my entire life, but because I don't live in Newcastle, or even have an English nationality, I'm not a worthy follower of the team? I fail to see where that makes sense, and I won't even bother start saying why people would support a team from a town they are not from. I'd rather see you back up your statement as to why someone supporting a team that is not from where they're from is the correct answer, 'cause I think you'd have a hard time making a valid point backing that up. As for having a "second" team, can you honestly say you've not paid more attention to teams around the world after managing teams on FM for instance? It's not like people are rampant fans of these "second" teams, but there are certain teams that if were on the telly I would want to watch just for the pleasure of watching football. Though of course if you follow two teams in the same league almost with the same passion I'd say there was something wrong with that person and he'd/she'd need to get put to sleep. You don't have "second" teams in the same league, it's a given. i have clubs who's results i look out for (sheff wed,lincoln city)as i have friends who support them....don't care if they win or lose,just interested in how they done. i'm with the northumbrian,i can't understand the idea of second favourite teams....even in the euro leagues (unless i have cash on) i just want the small teams to turn the big ones over.

i don't see whats wrong,for him it would be beneficial to go on loan and get some first team games but unfortunatly the club needs the numbers. wouldn't be surpised if he went on a season long loan next season and we get the benefit later.

More like 40 years. some bitterness in here,as much as i dislike the club now and their fans for a long time. liverpool were the best team in europe for a while.

exactly. someone earlier mentioned a good example, we'd never have signed the Senegalese Faye or Beye after our experience with fellow countryman Amdy Faye. and the amount of s**** english players we've had should put us right off signing any more. agreed. but i'm drawing the line at strong welsh accents

bernard was better and "homesick" is a s*** excuse Sorry madras, but that's just bollocks. Homesickness is a far more valid reason than you credit it. it's also a catch all excuse, the "bad back" of being in a huff and wanting away. Was it not actually more something to do with his religion or something anyway? that was during one of his sabaticals in paris. ask yourself,had we won the league or been pushing on and looking good,would he have left ? i very much doubt it Pretty sure we were up in around 6th-7th in the first-half of that 00-01 season when he left. Thank God we replaced him with the mighty Quinn. we were going nowhere,he knew it and we knew it. quinn was a shame (fantastic in that semi for the blades)

i say i was there and watched a 90minute game week in week out.as i was with bernard and bernard gets my vote

bernard was better and "homesick" is a s*** excuse Sorry madras, but that's just bollocks. Homesickness is a far more valid reason than you credit it. it's also a catch all excuse, the "bad back" of being in a huff and wanting away. Was it not actually more something to do with his religion or something anyway? that was during one of his sabaticals in paris. ask yourself,had we won the league or been pushing on and looking good,would he have left ? i very much doubt it

i'd disagree,bernard had one season when even some french reporters were calling for his inclusion in the national set-up. his performance in milan probably the best left back performance i'd seen since alan kennedy

bernard was better and "homesick" is a s*** excuse Sorry madras, but that's just bollocks. Homesickness is a far more valid reason than you credit it. it's also a catch all excuse, the "bad back" of being in a huff and wanting away.

bernard was better and "homesick" is a shit excuse

Distin, Domi, Bernard, Robert, Ginola and N'Zogbia all did well enough. Goma was OK Viana looked alright at first but god knows what happened. He does seem to be an exception though. Ronaldo, Nani, Boa Morte, Tiago, Paolo Ferriera, Carvalho have all done well in the Premiership. distin fucked off for greed domi fucked off in a huff bernard fucked off and needed the fa to tell him he couldn't ginola lasted 1 1/2 seasons before him bottom lip hit the deck robert, good season bad season good/bad season n'zogbia good start 18months of huff

are they not playing tomorow like ?

only the home leg........provided it stays at 1.

. given/harper beye taylor cacapa enrique milner faye n'zogbia duff martins owen

getting through a full nights sleep without needing to get up for a slash (he's 57 you know)

have to agree with that,except you may get some poisoned e-mail from the good folk of vladivostock.

benwell lad....yes and no. for every 20yr old you think should be able to help himself,you'll see a 6 month old child and you'll look at the parents and think "what chance has he got...i know exactly how he'll turn out" and you'll probably be right.for the 20yr old he has himself to blame, but not for the child your idea on poverty is right in absolutist terms but when a kid from cowgate sees others with flash cars and big houses,expensive hols etc he does feel the psychological effects of poverty,just like in those places you talk of it's relative to some extent.

why man mark ronaldo....just let enrique playt against him like the first half at old trafford

What would you do with my mate then? no idea......one thing i would be doing is focusing on those who could turn out that way,starting froma young age. Well that's kind of my idea, but in a different context. I would be trying to prevent another dole waller or even a future criminal/benefit cheat now rather than much earlier as you have proposed. Although I have to say though, yours makes more sense and is the correct area to work on for sure. Could we not do both though, if I can be greedy here? Remember, my mate could end up on the dole and have a kid so you could just be perpetuating the issue further down the line somewhere. Kind of like plugging one hole, only for another leak to spring elsewhere. if it was affordable maybe,but theres lots of places i'd like to see money spent first i'm afraid. Can you expand? education,give headteachers some strength in acting with the parents. pay the wages to get in teachers who have the ability to teach rather than those who see it as a cushy number. i'd rather help your mate by providing his kid with a breakfast and free school uniform(compulsary and identical to the other kids). decent after school care for those whose parents are in work. work on programmes getting the parents activly involved with the schools to engineer some pride in their community.just off the top of my head I like it and can't disagree. I'm loathe to pick on teachers because it's a tough job and a specialist job in my opinion, but if education standards are falling, then those at the top need to be asked questions of. Teaching used to be a profession, now it's a "hey, I like kids, I can do that" kind of job. The actual problem is that no-one with any sense wants to be a teacher anymore. They get f***** over all the time, it's a s*** job, you can't win, you have to deal with obnoxious little shits all day every day and that's just the parents. You get blamed for other people's (the government) f***-ups, you don't know whether you're coming or going because they're continually changing the curriculum. If exam results go up it's not because you've worked your arse off and done a fantastic job and so have the kids, it's because exams are a piece of piss nowadays. If they go down, then it's not because they're harder or the kids are just stupid knuckle-dragging ignoramuses, it's because teachers aren't doing their jobs right. All my family are in education, but there's no f****** way I'm doing it, I'd rather stack shelves!! My Mam is head of English at a rough-arse school, god knows why she stays there, she could be working at some nice school that's well financed and has kids that actually want to learn - it's not like she hasn't been offered the chance numerous times before - but she stays there because she likes making a difference. For her, getting one of her kids to read a book, or take even the slightest interest in a bit of Shakespeare, let alone through a GCSE with pass grade, is worth infinitely more than a 90% A-C pass-rate. There's not many like her out there though, especially the new teachers, I don't blame them why the f*** would you want to work in a school like that and take all the s*** my Mam has to put up with when you can go down the road and get a job at a "decent" school. There's simply not enough people who want to be teachers, for understandable reasons, so the rougher schools end up having to scrape the bottom of the barrel and pretty much employ anyone who shows an interest, that's if there is anyone, which most of the time there isn't. re-read my post. i address (though briefly) the problems you raise. people do want to teach but either the pay is too low or they get fucked about by parents,government as you say...thats why i say give the head teacher the strength/power to take them on and the only way to get the tea\chers you want is to make it worth their while (cash). for the most part i agree with you in the way things are....it needs to change if we are to try and stop the next wave of shit coming through.

What would you do with my mate then? no idea......one thing i would be doing is focusing on those who could turn out that way,starting froma young age. Well that's kind of my idea, but in a different context. I would be trying to prevent another dole waller or even a future criminal/benefit cheat now rather than much earlier as you have proposed. Although I have to say though, yours makes more sense and is the correct area to work on for sure. Could we not do both though, if I can be greedy here? Remember, my mate could end up on the dole and have a kid so you could just be perpetuating the issue further down the line somewhere. Kind of like plugging one hole, only for another leak to spring elsewhere. if it was affordable maybe,but theres lots of places i'd like to see money spent first i'm afraid. Can you expand? education,give headteachers some strength in acting with the parents. pay the wages to get in teachers who have the ability to teach rather than those who see it as a cushy number. i'd rather help your mate by providing his kid with a breakfast and free school uniform(compulsary and identical to the other kids). decent after school care for those whose parents are in work. work on programmes getting the parents activly involved with the schools to engineer some pride in their community.just off the top of my head

Ultimately I agree. But by planting good seeds, hopefully a few trees will grow to use a really naff analogy. Or better still: help my mate to a better life and you help his future kid who in the future will repay back the free ride his dad enjoyed kind of idea thanks to the benevolence of society? first thing is tell him not to have a kid till he can aford to give it the life he wants for it.

i'm president,took over in a coup,trying to be a benevolent dictator..........your mates lucky he hasnt got a hole in the back of his head.

What would you do with my mate then? no idea......one thing i would be doing is focusing on those who could turn out that way,starting froma young age. Well that's kind of my idea, but in a different context. I would be trying to prevent another dole waller or even a future criminal/benefit cheat now rather than much earlier as you have proposed. Although I have to say though, yours makes more sense and is the correct area to work on for sure. Could we not do both though, if I can be greedy here? Remember, my mate could end up on the dole and have a kid so you could just be perpetuating the issue further down the line somewhere. Kind of like plugging one hole, only for another leak to spring elsewhere. if it was affordable maybe,but theres lots of places i'd like to see money spent first i'm afraid.