Benwell Lad

A truly great man. Although he grew to "love" other clubs through professional association Bobby only ever loved one club from the heart - the same one most of us on here love. I had heard he was not looking too well recently but as has been said earlier in this thread the mind ia still as sharp as a razor. Two big regrets are he did not return to us soon enough - he could have made us great - and the manner in which he departed. He was betrayed by certain people and although as ever he will maintain a dignified silence he was very hurt by it. I think he may be back at SJP to watch his club and I'm sure he'll bring the house down again.

I used exactly that expression on the post match thread (about 10 mins before you ) Interesting to hear him described that way.

Certainly was. Almost Shearer-esque and you can't pay a higher compliment than that.

I think everyone present at SJP last night and millions watching on TV enjoyed the whole occasion more than they have for a long time. Not just the stirring performance but the atmosphere which felt like you were at a big match with the country's best fans - it just so much better when it's like that. I always wondered if top level professionals really are affected by the passion of the crowd. Last night we saw just how much they were. For the whole game but especially the second half as we pushed on and the crowd got noisier the stature of the Newcastle players and their determination to succeed just grew and grew. On the other side one of the best teams in Europe started to look really rattled and couldn't hold the ball. So it's proven. We all enjoy the occasion more (in the stadium or watching TV) and the team are much more determined to win, so let's keep it going - starting on Saturday against the Brummies. No getting on individuals backs at the first mistake just noisy passionate Geordie support.

Look North and Northern Life have been just as bad with their licking Keane's arss while trying constantly to stir up negative stories about Newcastle.

Thats like it should be at Newcastle. Tonight the team and the crowd deserved each other.

Include those listening on the radio and we could be a f***ing rugby team !

Sir Les says it all Ferdinand, a regular visitor to his old stamping ground as a Setanta Sports pundit, urges fans to put their grievances to one side and turn the stadium into a cauldron of noise. He said: "When I played there, the fans weren't like a 12th man, they were a 13th man too. No wonder we won so many games. "We had a great team under Kevin Keegan, but opponents were often beaten before kick-off because of the intimidating atmosphere

Well said Joey boy. Most of us knew what you meant and could see the press (including local BBC and ITV) doing their anti-Newcastle twist the facts routine.

Same here. The room where I was born is now some rich buggers kitchen. Make that 3 for the Princess Mary Massive Four !

Think so. Born Newcastle lived most of my life around north east and a bit abroad. Difficult to generalise but I've always found southerners/Londoners OK. No more or less bad ones than any where else.

Whatever's wrong leave it for after games. For 90 mins at SJP we should be scaring the opposition NOT our own players thats what Neewcastle supporters used to do.

Reading the NUFC.com report about the Sun's lies (as reported by Lovejoy in another thread) should galvanise us into a show of support which will show them all. - DON'T MESS WITH NEWCASTLE UNITED OR IT'S SUPPORTERS

It's the fans fault for buying a ticket to the football when they really should've got one to the Pantomime instead. People can do whatever they want. If buying a ticket then leaving early is what floats their boat then that's their decision. Personally, I just think that there are other parties who are more culpable, and therefore more deserving of criticism, than the fans for the current situation. There may be more culpable parties but as far as I know no one has EVER criticised the fans. Some London based newspapers have twisted the context of some quotations to make it sound that way and help their anti-Newcastle agendas. Point is if the Newcastle crowd can create the kind of atmosphere for which we were once famous ( but more recently sadly only seen in Athens, Frankfurt etc) then everyone enjoys the match more, us, the players - everyone except the opposing team and manager. It was well known that opposing managers used to instruct their teams to try and slow things down and take the heat out of the game at SJP to quieten the crowd. The crowd nowadays just make it far too easy for them.

Is it too much to ask that every man, woman and child in SJP gets 100% behind our team, substitutes and everyone connected with the team. Give full support to everyone in a black and white shirt and not just certain crowd favourites. If they are under pressure help and encourage them, let the opposition know that they are visiting one of football's real atmosphere cauldrons and try to unnerve THEM. This is what Newcastle and SJP were once famous for and if we can return to that kind of support - carrying on from Blackburn away - we'll all enjoy it more - especially the players. If things are not going well stick with them, we know Arsenal are good - but hell we're Newcastle United - no one should come here and have it easy. And then repeat it all again against Birmingham on Saturday. Save criticism for here or down the pub after the match but when at SJP our support should be total.

Was this Inside Sport last night ? I shouted "f*** OFF YOU c***" which I think woke up my daughter and wife when he said some remark about Allardyce being out within 2 games. It was a perfect example of a shitty red top journalist who wanted to stir things up by saying something I am fairly confident has absolutely no substance in it whatsoever. Gabby stopped in her tracks and said "what, 2 games time?" and of course he just sat there and didnt justify his claim at all. w****** No just last night's BBC and ITV local news. The level of press reporting in the UK has to be the lowest in the world and let's face it NUFC is always an easy thing for a lazy journalist to have a go at.

In fairness to Sam he stood in front of the cameras ( ITV of course ) and faced the music at the NE Writers awards, unlike a certain little pikey down the road who seemed to be in hiding after a hiding. Last night's BBC sport with Brown and Clemmets scraped the barrel, it showed footage of a (single) fan leaving the stand (may have been going for a pie) and Brown said "fans were exiting early" - crap journalism from a crap journalist. Oh and Clemmets said the mackems lost 7 -1 "despite having maybe the best goalkeeper in the Premiership" - shows what he knows about players and obviously is more bothered about sucking up to Keane than actually watching players.

All four posessed quality which so far ilooks to be lacking in any of the players brought in as replacements. Also all four could be matchwinners in their own way - something else we're lacking at present.

Sad but true. His Bolton team were consistently the worst team to watch when they played at SJP, but he argues the style got results that made them punch above their weight. Right now we'd just like to win a couple of games by any method but long term the Bolton style will never work out at Newcastle.

Surely you mean 'moaned as he has come on the left wing and has to cut back onto his strong foot to even have a chance of performing'. I'm sorry mate, but the result on Saturday was (glaringly) obviously down to one man alone and his inability to pick a balanced team in a familiar formation, and use his substitutes wisely. Blind faith must be a wonderful skill to master, but also a very risky one. Iam not defending SA, iam saying we always think better is round the corner, who do we REALISTICALLY replace him with?, people calling for Mourinho are a joke. I can't answer that question, I don't know. All I know is that as things stand we are going nowhere. Going no where just now, and hes made lots of mistakes, but iam sure he will get us a top half finish and hopefully learn from the last few weeks, i just think we should support him as theres no better options out there and the bloke is a proven good(not great) manager and unless we are sure of getting someone in a whole diffrent class to him theres no point or anything to gain sacking him. Iam in no way defending the last 4 games selections or performances. Indeed recent performances have been pretty indefencible. However my point is that I reckon at least 90% of the crowd did NOT boo, leave after the 3rd goal or join in the scousers anti-Sam songs but the media would have us believe almost everyone did. Truth is the majority of people ARE being patient despite watching awful football and bewidering team selections.

Because BBC local radio and television is a primary media source for NUFC supporters. If he has a personal grievance against something the BBC said before he came to Newcastle then he should sort it independently through legal channels and not through a petty boycott of interviews, thereby denying information to those who pay his fat salary.

Isn't it about time Allardyce grew up and stopped his petty protest against the BBC. OK Sam they upset you (along with Arry and Fergie) when you worked for another club. That was then. Newcastle is a big club and for many fans the prime media source is BBC local radio and television. As manager of NUFC you should be contracually obliged to use these media sources to keep fans informed.

I am sick of the type of football we've been served this season and totally bewildered by some of the manager's team selections as I think are the majority of fans, but how many people were really booing or chanting against Allardyce on Saturday ? If we believe the "popular" press (unfortunately now including the BBC) most of SJP was booing and "thousands" were streaming from the stadium when the third goal went in. Well I was there and very few were booing - even in a 52,000 crowd it only takes a few hundred to make booing audible - and very few left after the third goal. Sure the usual people we're beating the rush with ten minutes to go but those people leave when we're winning 3-2 in really exciting games anyway. Around me I didn't see anyone joining the scousers and singing against Allardyce - in fairness I did hear it from other parts - and some fans even got very radgy against the chanting. This is no defence of Allardyce or his team who frankly were appalling, but a contradiction of the rubbish spouted on Sky TV etc. At a guess I'd say less than 10% of the fans made any audible protest, the majority just sat in stunned silence and some even audibly defended the manager. On another note are there any stattos out there who could answer the question when was the last time we played at SJP and didn't get a corner (I can't remember one on Saturday) or have one shot on target ?

You're right - today was a disaster, but the fans were on the team's back in the first ten minutes and it just got worse as it went on. Said it before and I'll say it now Newcastle have crap fans. Big in numbers but fickle in support for the team. To applaud those plastic scousers taking the p*ss out of our manager was just embarrassing.

Rob theres no way you will get paid £3M a year to come up with a simple idea like that. To be a highly paid manager you need to come up with things like playing left footers on the right and vice versa and play formations that bamboozle everyone (especially ourselves). If management was as simple as you suggest anyone could do it and you wouldn't need an army of fitness specialists, sports pschycologists and dieticians. You see - it's all about science not just simple things like picking a team that can win and show passion.