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Willian is the only one except Oscar for 15minutes that's had an acceptable performance. David Luiz playing like he did in the Confed. I can't believe a player can play 5 games like he did in this World Cup to then choke this much in the last two games. It's an unbelievable gap between his highest level in the WC to his lowest. So proud of our midfield, really working their socks off not letting Holland come close to the goal

He's injured. I've been told here that injured players on the bench makes a huge difference to the team's performance. I don't remember anyone on here suggesting an injured Colo be named as a substitute, like. Yeah, because the PL gives teams the possibility to field every squad player? Jesus Christ. Brazil aren't exaclty missing out on a substitute by having Neymar on the bench are they? Wow.

Have they been revered though? They are the home team and a huge footballing nation, to me it's pretty obvious they'll pull a lot of media coverage. This guy apparently watches loads of Enner Valencia at Pachuca. Bet if he didn't google he'd have no idea what colour Pachuca plays in.

Going to be on the bench in uniform apprently. Said it's his choice and he wants to finish what he started with his teammates. Great attitude in my opinion. Could've easily just f***ed off instead of taking all the responsibility that he has in the last few days. What a guy! What a hero! Just think that unlike some players and the coaching staff that has gone hiding he has at least gone out and taken on the responsibility to be the face of the failure despite not having been on the pitch. It's a 22 year old who didn't crumble under pressure and carried the side until he was kicked to bits by a Chilean defender. I understand if you're unable to see past your hatred towards the kid though. I don't hate Neymar at all. I hate the collective wankfest/circus surrounding him. Everything that goes on around him is like some Hollywood story designed to rouse emotions and show him as some sort of messiah. Also, I do think it's a lot easier to "take the blame" when you haven't played in the most embarrassing game in your nation's history due to an impact injury you couldn't do anything about. As for Neymar the player, I think he's fantastically talented and apart from the odd diving bollocks, he conducts himself really well in general. I do hope though that for his sake and the sake of football, that his career doesn't fizzle out the way Robinho's and Ronaldinho's (in a way) did. That's fair enough. I think some of it are OTT as well, but I think it's more of a team thing and it's media that portrays it like that. They just wanted to show him support, same way had it been Oscar injured. One thing Scolari does is build a family atmosphere well, he's tactically quite poor which usually doesn't matter in knockout stages where motivational skills are more important. We hit a wall against Germany, was a one-off. As for Neymar, I believe he comes from a good background and conducts himself so well outside the pitch that I'd be surprised if his career fizzlled out the way Ronaldinho's did. I think injuries might kill him, but not parties like Ronaldinhos. Ronaldo's not even out fishing anymore, he's genuinely sharing his opinion which are absolutely ridiculous. That Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka and Rivaldo is somewhat superior to Willian, Oscar, Neymar and Fred? I'm not sure how I'm even going to answer that. If you can't see the mis-connection you made between the first four names then there's no help here. (and yes they are superior)

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Ronaldo's not even out fishing anymore, he's genuinely sharing his opinion which are absolutely ridiculous.

Fair enough if that's your opinion geordiedean, but if you can't see the difference between a player getting injured pre-World Cup to a player getting injured during the World Cup. If you can't see the difference between violent fouls and disruptive fouls. Well then you probably should stick to watching Enner Valencia play at Pachuca since you seem to think he's a quality player that has it all. It's your opinion that it sickening, but while I agree that this Brazil side has been an embarrassment it's better than any english side I've had the non-pleasure to watch in my life-time. It's also gone further than any of the English sides I've seen. I don't see how you can say he'll never be when he's already one of the top scorers in the national side in history. I agree that he's no Ronaldo, no Pele, no Zico etc. But he's a damn good player who carried probably the most pressured sides of all times in a World Cup offensively. The only game they were without him they crumbled (even if I'm of the opinion Thiago Silva is far more important to the side). Pretty amazing how far they've fallen in 10 years, like. We didn't win shit between 70 and 94 either, the greatest team to ever play according to many didn't win anything either. We've failed massively as a nation in the last three World Cups but have still almost won every single tournament in between which makes it even more painful to fall in the big stage. In 2002 we weren't even considered good enough to go past the R16 as we almost failed to qualify. This is football, people like you, absolute clueless people, try to look at a much larger picture because of a slump. Last year everyone were so impressed, now it didn't work out that way. There's nothing more or less to it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, just like Spain went out in the group stages I still believe them to be favourites for the next Euros with Germany.

Would love him here he's quality has got the lot Be interesting to hear how he's done for Pachuca or even Emelec. What type of player is he and how did he do at Pachuca?

Going to be on the bench in uniform apprently. Said it's his choice and he wants to finish what he started with his teammates. Great attitude in my opinion. Could've easily just f***ed off instead of taking all the responsibility that he has in the last few days. What a guy! What a hero! Just think that unlike some players and the coaching staff that has gone hiding he has at least gone out and taken on the responsibility to be the face of the failure despite not having been on the pitch. It's a 22 year old who didn't crumble under pressure and carried the side until he was kicked to bits by a Chilean defender. I understand if you're unable to see past your hatred towards the kid though.

Going to be on the bench in uniform apprently. Said it's his choice and he wants to finish what he started with his teammates. Great attitude in my opinion. Could've easily just f***ed off instead of taking all the responsibility that he has in the last few days.

I don't agree, Maicons game against Colombia was the best fullback performance for this side in the whole tournament. And the best player I saw for our u17 team was Auro, a right defender that is already compared to Dani Alves and plays for Sao Paulo. Hopefully he can keep on developing as he showed a lot of promise.

I've never seen Brazil play this so There's a first for everything I guess. Although I'm starting to get excited for it, time for the team to prove everyone that it was just a freak accident, although I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose by 3 or 4 since the team seems completely down.

? Our best right back, had an excellent game against Colombia.

Although I think for Brazil it's more about Julio Cesar playing his last game for the national side and not letting him personally get the chance to leave this on a high. Hopefully he gets his bronze-medal and isn't only remembered for the 2010 WC and the 7 goals conceded earlier this week. Glad to see Scolari gave Maxwell a chance which means everyone except Victor and Jefferson will have played.

Julio Cesar; Maicon, DavidLuiz, ThiagoSilva, Maxwell; Luiz Gustavo, Paulinho; Ramires, Oscar, Willian; J

Can't this shit just finish in a draw? Such a depressing game to watch before a ball has even been kicked.

I can. For me it's 50/50. Argentina have been boring, but extremely solid. Read an article on how they remind of Brazil 94 side and they really do. Depend on Messi as we did on Romario and are defensively very solid. There's reason to claim they've been boring, but on the other hand pretty much every side have parked the bus against them. Could be different tomorrow night. Fair enough, but I don't think every team has parked the bus tbf, I think that going forward they really depend on Messi and he's been nullified for almost 89mins every game.

I can. For me it's 50/50. Argentina have been boring, but extremely solid. Read an article on how they remind of Brazil 94 side and they really do. Depend on Messi as we did on Romario and are defensively very solid.

Post-World Cup depression has really hit in. Know there's two games left, but I don't want to go back to relying on Newcastle every weekend to find some sort of enjoyment from this sport. Been such a fantastic month.

Apart from the last two times? Cannavaro got it in 2006 no? But yeah Forlan deserved it last time though, was excellent.

Muller or Messi depending on who wins most probably.

Watching this WC, I've come to the conclusion, that I must have made up the rule about the official needing to come from a different confederation than the teams playing in my head. Obviously, not the case for European teams. It was a rule until Nishimuras opening game performance.

Aye I know, but if it wasn't for Kanji I'd genuinely think the guy is stuck in the 20s. Calling other the worst types of human beings while he portrays himself on here as a type of superhero that deals with everything thorugh brute force and size of biceps. Dr Semtex, the vertebrae that Neymar broke, the L3 is couple cm's away from nerves that could've potentially kept him in a wheel-chair. I'm not questioning the physical distance between where he was kneed and any specific nerves, I'm questioning the existence of the magical instant-paralysis spot. And the notion that what saved his precious legs was God nudging the knee a little further up to save precious little Neymar. If he was any more self-indulgent, he'd be an individual sachet of Cadbury's highlights wispa gold hot chocolate. What are you on about?

What in the actual fuck? I think they do as long as they buy a RB and a CB. However, if he's bought and those two positions aren't improved they might be in trouble. Sanchez is a good player and had an excellent season, but his best football came with Messi out of the team and so did Pedros. Think Suarez won't have any problems adapting next to Neymar and Messi.