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A woman that is better than any player England has seen for the last I don't know how many years. Ouch.

Those moves by Neuer FFS, they can't do a simple thing like dance, but humiliate us in football they can. Fuck off

You can only beat what's in front of you tbf. How would Messi have done without the growth hormones back in the 50,60,70s? I think players need to be rated by generations. Pele was the best of his, Maradona of his and now Messi of his. The only reason I consider some players better than other despite playing in different generations is because they won the World Cup. For me personally it's the biggest tournament there is.

Hot Latin American women > Hot Scandinavian women Average Latin American women < Average Scandinavian Women True story.

That is jsut fucking amazing. Post-World Cup depression hitting in and that comes along. Thank you H'ghar.

Too mistake prone to be considered one of the absolute best, on his day he is possibly better than Thiago Silva (who is the only central defender on the shortlist). I see Luiz as a brilliant footballer, but he's way too mental to ever be a top, top defender. I hope for the sake of the national team that he doesn't have one of those days in the World Cup. I do think he plays better for Brazil than Chelsea though, TSilva is such a calming influence. IMO Luiz is a big game player. There's a lot of truth in what you say, I think he might play well against better teams when he knows he can't drop his focus, against worse teams he'll switch off when there's not much happening. Germany mustn't have been good enough for him to not drop his focus. Maybe there wasn't enough happening for him? Yet he was the only one that showed heart and hustle despite being down. He had a terrible game, but no one can put it on him. There were six minutes, and honestly, six minutes of football that won't ever happen again. As for this discussion. Messi will be up there with the likes of Maradona, Garrincha etc. Pele will always be the king

Especially when he's streets ahead of both in terms of performance and ability Thiago is fucking excellent tbf. All three are different players though and yeah he should definitely earn as much as them, but he's not really 'streets' ahead.

He was amazing tonight. Don't be sad though, you're playing in the real final in Brasilia.

The one you hosted in 82 is comfortably the best World Cup I've seen in my lifetime, and I started as a six year old in 74. 90 is second best and 78 third. My dad says that's the only tournament he actually shed some tears for Brazil going out. He says 5th of July is the worst date he's experienced as a Brazilian football fan and says that yesterdays loss comes close but is still eclipsed by that loss.

I predict at least 3 replies that imply the reason you say that is you being Spanish. I was almost one of the three. Same

Think Germany wins but it's going to be real close. Maybe even penalties.

'98? Nah, might be because until yesterday it was the worst defeat I've witnessed, but I really enjoyed this one. Had everything, great goals, surprises, disappointments, a unbelievable shock and some incredible finishes in ET and penalties.

Despite the horrible loss yesterday, I've really enjoyed it. The best that I can remember, only 2002 beats it because of the fact that brazil won it. '94 was better. You won that too, of course. Yeah but then again I was 3 years old.

van Gaal did a fantastic job with the team you guys had. Really impressed. Said it from the beginning though, the two best teams played on the same side of the bracket Aye, it's a pity France and Germany met on Q/F. France France were a hell of a lot better than the Netherlands have been this WC. France had 90 excellent minutes against 11 men and that was against Switzerland. Ecuador was shite, Nigeria were better than them, and they never really threatened Germany.

Despite the horrible loss yesterday, I've really enjoyed it. The best that I can remember, only 2002 beats it because of the fact that brazil won it.

van Gaal did a fantastic job with the team you guys had. Really impressed. Said it from the beginning though, the two best teams played on the same side of the bracket Aye, it's a pity France and Germany met on Q/F. France

Robben was as quiet as Van Persie for the vast majority of the game. Both of them received absolutely nothing in terms of service. Their play going forward was broken. Robben tried to do something when he got it. Van Persie stood there offering f*** all Not difficult to spot the difference, no idea how Baba could put them into the same bracket. Sig makes me feel bad, Flip. Lie. I'm canny certain you were joining in the abuse last night. I think you're the only one who sent me a PM so I'm putting you on the ignore list. Dickface. The f***? Rich must have? He'd better f***ing have. "Everyone PM Flip" he says. Pussy. Just checked you and Anderson were the only. Trusting Rich. So much naivety.

van Gaal did a fantastic job with the team you guys had. Really impressed. Said it from the beginning though, the two best teams played on the same side of the bracket

Robben was as quiet as Van Persie for the vast majority of the game. Both of them received absolutely nothing in terms of service. Their play going forward was broken. Robben tried to do something when he got it. Van Persie stood there offering f*** all Not difficult to spot the difference, no idea how Baba could put them into the same bracket. Sig makes me feel bad, Flip. Lie. I'm canny certain you were joining in the abuse last night. I think you're the only one who sent me a PM so I'm putting you on the ignore list. Dickface.

Robben was as quiet as Van Persie for the vast majority of the game. Both of them received absolutely nothing in terms of service. Their play going forward was broken. Robben tried to do something when he got it. Van Persie stood there offering f*** all Not difficult to spot the difference, no idea how Baba could put them into the same bracket. Sig makes me feel bad, Flip. It's sig worthy, I'll tell my kids, grandkids and so forth all about the fact I was there, the day Brazilian football got bummed big time on home soil. We'll be back Mike, someday that Confed Final from 2009 will be replayed but in a World Cup final. They have been quite abysmal in this knockout stages while the Argies have been very solid in my opinion.

Robben was as quiet as Van Persie for the vast majority of the game. Both of them received absolutely nothing in terms of service. Their play going forward was broken. Robben tried to do something when he got it. Van Persie stood there offering f*** all Not difficult to spot the difference, no idea how Baba could put them into the same bracket.

This World Cup couldn't get any worse. Just hope Germany do their job, predicting a difficult 2-1 win. Hope we can seal a win against Holland to save face without pressure.

No doubt, can't blame them. They should've gone for the juggler.

Bunch of dicks the lot of them

Although Thiago Silva saved face by casually being suspended for this game. Probably knew what was going to happen. Aye, forgot about Thiago - does David Luiz rely on him to organize? Possibly, I don't think the game yesterday has any bearing on the qualities of the players individually, David Luiz has been excellent the whole tournament until last night. Yesterday was a freak accident. Germany would've problably won anyways, but the result is just freakish. The challenge will be for Brazil to shake it off and move forward. Time to say goodbye to the likes of Maicon, Dani Alves, Fernandinho, Fred, etc. and start building around the youngsters. Looking forward to seeing more of Lucas Moura, Coutinho, Marquinhos, Bernard. Absolutely. We have some very exciting players who you've mentioned, we also have Oscar who despite being the biggest disappointment in recent history for me still has the potential to be a future great.