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Fair enough if that's your opinion, we were better until they scored the first, after that we lost it. And yeah, that feeling is terrible. Appreciate the sympathy, you've always been a classact Shak, compared to Dan

It hurts so bad because those numbers are perfect for the name

Another one unable to see the point. Did Ribery play in the WC? Did Falcao play in the WC? Did any of those two injure themselves so bad they couldn't even sit in the stadium to watch the game, instead had to be back home to watch it? Neymar left the group that badly injured and that badly devastated that the players felt like doing something for him. Since I live in Sweden I know that the empathy-level in nothern europe is almost non-existent but I swear to god they didn't do this as a way to put him above the team, they did this to show support to a devastated 22 year old kid who missed probably the biggest game in his career. The point is they shuldn't have. hey should have concentrated on the biggest game of their career(s). It was six minutes. SIX GOD DAMN MINUTES. Jesus fucking Christ. That fucking Neymar shirt and support has no fucking signficance on the outcome, neither would it have had if he played. All of Brazil blacked out for 6 minutes, six darkest minutes in this countries recent history. Now it's time to look forward to the elections in october and hope for a god damn change for once and then the Copa America next year, Olympics the year after, hopefully the Confed the year after that and then the WC in Russia. /rattled marra who will be supporting your team later

Isn't it FIFA that doesn't have minutes of silence for players during World Cup games? Or am I wrong in this one?

Really fucking hope van Gaal does Brazil a favour once in his lifetime and sends the Argies out.

Fair enough, probably is as well, but at the same time they didn't do it as a way to dismiss the ability of his replacement or so. Another one unable to see the point. Did Ribery play in the WC? Did Falcao play in the WC? Did any of those two injure themselves so bad they couldn't even sit in the stadium to watch the game, instead had to be back home to watch it? Neymar left the group that badly injured and that badly devastated that the players felt like doing something for him. Since I live in Sweden I know that the empathy-level in nothern europe is almost non-existent but I swear to god they didn't do this as a way to put him above the team, they did this to show support to a devastated 22 year old kid who missed probably the biggest game in his career. I do enjoy your needless little jabs, 7-1 loser boy.

Looks a bit like Fred tbh.

Another one unable to see the point. Did Ribery play in the WC? Did Falcao play in the WC? Did any of those two injure themselves so bad they couldn't even sit in the stadium to watch the game, instead had to be back home to watch it? Neymar left the group that badly injured and that badly devastated that the players felt like doing something for him. Since I live in Sweden I know that the empathy-level in nothern europe is almost non-existent but I swear to god they didn't do this as a way to put him above the team, they did this to show support to a devastated 22 year old kid who missed probably the biggest game in his career.

:lol: I really hope they didn't mass-produce them.

Look at those names, man. Cuthbert Ottaway, Arnold Kirke-Smith, John Brockbank. Can almost smell the tweed. Those tactics doe

I stood up together with a majority of the stadium to applaud a 7th goal, Klose being subbed off and a national team that had just gone into the history books for all the wrong reasons in probably the darkest day of Brazilian football. It has nothing to do with moral high ground or whatever you think and all down to do with the fact that a big part of this country has shown the world that all their pre-conceived ideas are wrong. Also, people saying this is the end of Brazilian football comparing a 200 million populated country to the island of yours. We are the biggest nation in footballing history, between our third win and 4th win it went 24 years, we will have some great players maturing for Russia and there's no doubt in my mind that we'll win it. As for the Neymar, I don't see what's wrong with holding a shirt of an injured player? This squad has been known for being extremely close (except in midfield where they apparently play like there's 200miles between each other) and Neymar was a big part of the team. He carried us past the group stage and without an injury against Chile we would've seen the best of him in the quarter finals and semi finals. We'll be back, just like Germany once disappeared and came back and just like Italy does every 24 years. If he was dead it'd be okay. What they're doing now is just telling the world that Neymar is much bigger than the team and more important than the 11 out there at that time. He might just be, but the players shouldn't tell the world they agree. It's well worthy. You completely missed the point, they'd do the same if it was f***ing Oscar or Fred. It's about the team, I've seen teams do the same when players have broken their legs and had other injuries. This happens quite often with a message of support. It's also different because he was unable to leave his home to watch at the stadium because of a fractured back. They just wanted to show him how much he means. ''Dead'', like we in life should only pay tribute to dead people ffs. Well, yeah. You don't f***ing tribute a living, breathing, player in that way. You're putting Neymar way above Brazil as a unit, and it's deterimental. Both the team and the press seemingly spent the lead-up treating the match like some testimonial, and it got them a testimonial scoreline. The biggest and best tribute to Neymar would be playing on, and winning the world cup, and then praising his contribution to the team for helping them get there. I'm not going solely against the shirt holding, but the entire run-up full of self-loathing "the rest of the team sucks - we'll lose without Neymar" all over, and then the team basically say they agree by putting Neymar above the team. Why not hold up a shirt with the player replacing Neymar up, saying "hey, we trust you as much as we trust Neymar. You can do it!". That's what a team should do. Appreciate the entire team. Not worship one player. WTF are you on about Kaiz? Seriously, you're posting that without a single clue of what you are talking about. It's not worshipping Neymar, like I said we'd have seen the same for Fred (who fuck me was abysmal in this tournament, so off the pace it's ridiculous, had confidence he could turn it around until he was garbage once again against Colombia).

#ForNeymar or something wasn't it? #ForçaNeymar basically giving neymar force. To bad they gave him all their force so they had none left for the game.

I stood up together with a majority of the stadium to applaud a 7th goal, Klose being subbed off and a national team that had just gone into the history books for all the wrong reasons in probably the darkest day of Brazilian football. It has nothing to do with moral high ground or whatever you think and all down to do with the fact that a big part of this country has shown the world that all their pre-conceived ideas are wrong. Also, people saying this is the end of Brazilian football comparing a 200 million populated country to the island of yours. We are the biggest nation in footballing history, between our third win and 4th win it went 24 years, we will have some great players maturing for Russia and there's no doubt in my mind that we'll win it. Why are you so sure that you'll win that? You need to find two new midfielders,a striker,a right back and probably one attacking midfielder/winger before then and Germany will still have the majority of their team along with a few other teams Because after last night I have to believe in something

I stood up together with a majority of the stadium to applaud a 7th goal, Klose being subbed off and a national team that had just gone into the history books for all the wrong reasons in probably the darkest day of Brazilian football. It has nothing to do with moral high ground or whatever you think and all down to do with the fact that a big part of this country has shown the world that all their pre-conceived ideas are wrong. Also, people saying this is the end of Brazilian football comparing a 200 million populated country to the island of yours. We are the biggest nation in footballing history, between our third win and 4th win it went 24 years, we will have some great players maturing for Russia and there's no doubt in my mind that we'll win it. As for the Neymar, I don't see what's wrong with holding a shirt of an injured player? This squad has been known for being extremely close (except in midfield where they apparently play like there's 200miles between each other) and Neymar was a big part of the team. He carried us past the group stage and without an injury against Chile we would've seen the best of him in the quarter finals and semi finals. We'll be back, just like Germany once disappeared and came back and just like Italy does every 24 years. If he was dead it'd be okay. What they're doing now is just telling the world that Neymar is much bigger than the team and more important than the 11 out there at that time. He might just be, but the players shouldn't tell the world they agree. It's well worthy. You completely missed the point, they'd do the same if it was fucking Oscar or Fred. It's about the team, I've seen teams do the same when players have broken their legs and had other injuries. This happens quite often with a message of support. It's also different because he was unable to leave his home to watch at the stadium because of a fractured back. They just wanted to show him how much he means. ''Dead'', like we in life should only pay tribute to dead people ffs. Lapse of concentration, also seen defenders do that 100 times and the goalkeeper not actually throwing the ball. I think his intentions were to run in front of Ospina so he wouldn't kick it out fast, and as soon as he actually got the ball of his hands it was too late to move direction. Stupid, but if anything last night shows why he clearly is the only real world class defender in the world.

not a fucking fred avatar. Get me that Hitler Yao back

I stood up together with a majority of the stadium to applaud a 7th goal, Klose being subbed off and a national team that had just gone into the history books for all the wrong reasons in probably the darkest day of Brazilian football. It has nothing to do with moral high ground or whatever you think and all down to do with the fact that a big part of this country has shown the world that all their pre-conceived ideas are wrong. Also, people saying this is the end of Brazilian football comparing a 200 million populated country to the island of yours. We are the biggest nation in footballing history, between our third win and 4th win it went 24 years, we will have some great players maturing for Russia and there's no doubt in my mind that we'll win it. As for the Neymar, I don't see what's wrong with holding a shirt of an injured player? This squad has been known for being extremely close (except in midfield where they apparently play like there's 200miles between each other) and Neymar was a big part of the team. He carried us past the group stage and without an injury against Chile we would've seen the best of him in the quarter finals and semi finals. We'll be back, just like Germany once disappeared and came back and just like Italy does every 24 years.

My avatar. Come on. Some admin take it down. This forum has reached a new low with a forced hitler yao.

Hang in there, man. You may have a long ride on the banter bus in front of you. Have to say though that despite some idiots the Brazilian fans showed class inside the arena. Stood up an applauded the Germans after the 7th, applauded the team after the game and kept singing. Unlike the british who always embarrass themselves in international tournaments unless they're in a country where they know cowardice will backfire. Ooooohhhhh Go and stare at your wall m8 Rattled marra

Hang in there, man. You may have a long ride on the banter bus in front of you. Have to say though that despite some idiots the Brazilian fans showed class inside the arena. Stood up an applauded the Germans after the 7th, applauded the team after the game and kept singing. Unlike the british who always embarrass themselves in international tournaments unless they're in a country where they know cowardice will backfire. Ooooohhhhh

I'm alive, disappointed but at the same time impressed by our six minute collapse. I'll live with banter but theres a poster or two on here who have gone over the line. I'll post from my computer from my 'tin house' when I'm back home. Sitting in a hotel and fair play to the forum name

Don't think we'll win but you never know in a semi. Early set piece goal and three central midfielder not letting germany control the game could win it for us.

On my way to the mineirao. Also finally an article that breaks the dirty quarter-final into details in terms of fouls. Posted wrong article first http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2014/07/06/neymars-injury-and-brazils-brutality-against-colombia-at-world-cup-an-alternate-view/

That's absolutely fair enough. But managers aren't always appointed on track record and maybe as an assistant he was appreciated/respected. I mean Queiroz got a job at Real Madrid a lot thanks to being a fantastic assistant to Sir Alex. (even if he had a better track record than Wilmots before)

Appalling no doubt, but in the game against the US he was probably the worst Belgian player on the pitch. Everytime he got the ball he slowed the play down and their was no fluency to their attacks when he got the ball and he didn't improve in the Argentina match. My problem with that sub wasn't Hazard, it was the fact that Chadli came on (no idea why he's rated as a footballer). I can't understand many substitutions though, why did van Gaal wait until the 119th to put a goalkeeper on or until the 105th to move away from the 5 line defense when he was playing Costa Rica who were even more tired? Why didn't he put in more fresh legs earlier instead of happily going to the pens? Why didn't Scolari put a midfielder on against Colombia when it was clear that Colombia were winning the midfield in the 2nd half? Why did Löw play Lahm at right back when Mustafi had already failed to impress against Portugal? Why did Sabella play a 5 man defense in the first game when they've crushed all opponents with a 4-3-3 in qualifiers? Managers make mistake, especially more under circumstances like knockouts. I'm not saying give Wilmots praise either, I'm just saying that his achievements in this World Cup were in line with the expectations, so why ridicule him as some did?