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Tony Hibbert man.

Chelsea players slipping all over the place.

Luckily for Man U fans, it's not a Dwight situation

David Luiz listening to AVB introduction. Fucking clown

Fuck happened David Luiz

Why exactly? Because of the fact that he's been capable of making league one players Premier League players, he's extremely underrated around here, it's unbelievable. And as for not having the right players, the Everton squad is a hell lot better than having to play Di Santo, Caldwell, McArthur, Stam, Ramis... Give over.. Moyes has had Everton play to the maximum of their potential for the best part of a decade, whereas Martinez has done less than his predecessor and only has them performing to the level they're apparently capable of for two months a season. Underrated my backside. The Everton squad is a hell of a lot better because Moyes made it so on a shoestring, something Martinez has not shown he can do either. Not disagreeing about the Moyes part whatsoever, I like him, don't know if he will be a success but he is definitely worth the chance. But if Martinez can get the Everton players playing then I don't see why he can't be a success. As for the give over, I ask you to give me the names of the players you actually rate at Wigan and would have in a PL team? Does he have it much harder than Bruce did - as the have performed worse under Martinez than Bruce. (I mean maybe something has gone on with funds I'm not aware of since Bruce letft) Has had a net transfer profit of over £10m over his seasons there and his league position doesn't tell the truth. Bruce 11th place was 3p better than Martinez best season when they finished 15th. It's not like Bruce did a great job there. Why exactly? Because of the fact that he's been capable of making league one players Premier League players, he's extremely underrated around here, it's unbelievable. And as for not having the right players, the Everton squad is a hell lot better than having to play Di Santo, Caldwell, McArthur, Stam, Ramis... Give over.. Moyes has had Everton play to the maximum of their potential for the best part of a decade, whereas Martinez has done less than his predecessor and only has them performing to the level they're apparently capable of for two months a season. Underrated my backside. The Everton squad is a hell of a lot better because Moyes made it so on a shoestring, something Martinez has not shown he can do either. Not disagreeing about the Moyes part whatsoever, I like him, don't know if he will be a success but he is definitely worth the chance. But if Martinez can get the Everton players playing then I don't see why he can't be a success. As for the give over, I ask you to give me the names of the players you actually rate at Wigan and would have in a PL team? I can't be arsed to do a Wigan squad assessment, but quite evidently their players are capable of playing for a lower Premiership side, or they wouldn't be there and neither would Wigan be in the Premiership anymore. Also, if you rate their squad so lowly, what exactly does that say about his transfer policy? Martinez is a decent man manager who appears to strive under pressure and plays a somewhat exotic brand of football, I'll give you that. In terms of results or improving a side over time he has a lot to prove imho. That's the exact point I'm making, what's the point in having a discussion if you can't be arsed to make arguments that are valid. As for his squad, he hasn't been given enough funds, he has a net profit in transfers as stated above of over £10m in his season here. Before coming to Wigan they sold their best player in Valencia and an integral part of their team in Cattermole. It's not easy to replace them, yet he managed to sign Diame, McCarthy, Victor Moses, Maloney who have all been decent players for them and all of them for a combined fee of £3,5m. Obviously he made some risks with Boselli which didn't pau off, but that doesn't make him a bad manager does it?

He's not been horrible, but I do agree. He's doing a bit the same role as Ramires was doing in the beginning for CHelsea. Running all over the place not looking comfortable with his position for the most part, he still wins a lot of balls and knows how to play the ball.

Rooney to Real? Lewan to Man U?

Why exactly? Because of the fact that he's been capable of making league one players Premier League players, he's extremely underrated around here, it's unbelievable. And as for not having the right players, the Everton squad is a hell lot better than having to play Di Santo, Caldwell, McArthur, Stam, Ramis... Give over.. Moyes has had Everton play to the maximum of their potential for the best part of a decade, whereas Martinez has done less than his predecessor and only has them performing to the level they're apparently capable of for two months a season. Underrated my backside. The Everton squad is a hell of a lot better because Moyes made it so on a shoestring, something Martinez has not shown he can do either. Not disagreeing about the Moyes part whatsoever, I like him, don't know if he will be a success but he is definitely worth the chance. But if Martinez can get the Everton players playing then I don't see why he can't be a success. As for the give over, I ask you to give me the names of the players you actually rate at Wigan and would have in a PL team?

Why exactly? Because of the fact that he's been capable of making league one players Premier League players, he's extremely underrated around here, it's unbelievable. And as for not having the right players, the Everton squad is a hell lot better than having to play Di Santo, Caldwell, McArthur, Stam, Ramis... Which regular Wigan starters are 'League One' players exactly? The man is leading his team to relegation, is a bellend, and looks like an eagle. If he goes to Everton, he will cover them in his mediocre management juice. Let it happen. There's quite a lot of their players who are league one and championship level at best tbf. He's not leading them into relegation, if anything he has been leading them out of relegation for the past seasons.

Why exactly? Because of the fact that he's been capable of making league one players Premier League players, he's extremely underrated around here, it's unbelievable. And as for not having the right players, the Everton squad is a hell lot better than having to play Di Santo, Caldwell, McArthur, Stam, Ramis...

So Moyes to Man U, rather scared of what Martinez could do at Everton if he replaces Moyes

Brazil to the rescue.

What a goal!

Mata is such a class player.

Hardly a bullet Eh did you see the header he missed for Brazil in the Olympics? That is a shit load of games

Oscar at least learnt how to head a fucking ball after the Olympics...

I don't get why people wants Blanc, his trackrecord isn't the best and his teams play a boring brand of football. Before anyone gets at me, I know he did very well with Bordeaux. He's just no CL winner like Rafa

Michael Owen man, sucha cunt.

http://www.givemefootball.com/343841-world-xi-team-of-the-21st-century Not much to disagree about this. A bit off topic, but anyways.

wow. That's bad. Can't believe I laughed.

Torres has started most of their games up top. Not integral? I know he's shit, but still an important part of their team.

It's merely about what idiots put their money on when it comes to next manager odds really, isn't it? That's true. Didn't really think that far, couldn't imagine anyone putting money on it.

Can't believe skybet are actually giving 66/1 on Pep being the next manager ffs. Why is he even on the list. If Mourinho hasn't already gone to Chelsea I would've thought he'd be top of the list. But I can't imagine someone like David Moyes going, he's just not good enough. Ancelotti possibly.