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I can’t speak for manorpark but mine is based on everything i read and understand about the whole situation, and the odd bit of 2nd and 3rd hand info I get from time to time. I’m sorry, I can’t let that go. What exactly have you read that makes you so convinced that this will go ahead? And no a tweet from some guy called Harry doesn’t count. Everything right now points to the complete opposite. Richard Masters basically said to Chi in a letter that they believe that PIF & MBS are not seperate. Jacobs has also since said that PIF use a government web address & have government staff. The US in a report state that MBS ordered the use of PIF planes in the murder of kashoggi. That is an example of reading info and coming to a conclusion. Every single thing points to PIF & MBS not being seperate entities. From what I read Manor Park’s only reasoning is constantly ‘omg look at who Ashley has taking his case’ from what I gather from this thread all your info comes from Keith and couple twitter itk called Harry and R E Maine, the latter who indulges himself in weird boxing related analogies. Desperate stuff I’m 100% all for being positive if there is actual positive info but this weird doubling down delusion is too much man

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Honestly not saying this to be a dick or to piss on anyone’s positive chips but I think that Keith guy knows less and less as the weeks go by.

I’m mixed on this she wanted the Saudi wealth to take us to next level. Would a Staveley buyout without it just be akin to Kenyon/DeGrosa etc. Don’t get me wrong though obviously preferable to Ashley. Ruebens are very wealthy but don’t don’t seem to want to go all in which is a shame

Btw I’d absolutely love her and the Ruebens to buy us, would certainly be a lot cleaner if the Saudis weren’t involved tbh

Erm... my whole point was she doesn’t have the money the money and the whole starting point of the discussion was someone else mentioning the money she’d receive from the court case You literally said she’d buy the club with the Ruebens in a leverage buy out akin to Burnley You are a mad man there isn’t a chance Staveley & Ruebens will buy the club without PIF if they wanted to they’d have done so by now You’re absolutely wrong Staveley attempted to buy the club in the May prior and thought she could. This was an attempt to keep Benitez before he left, the Saudi’s only came on board in the November. She will own the club regardless. The price will be at a reduced level and I’ll gladly accept you’re apology in a couple of months when i’m right. She had backers then too wasn’t just her and ruebens. f*** all apology due Did she who were they ? That’s guesswork on you’re part I’m afraid. We’ll both know who’ll be right in a few months and that will be enough for me ? Can’t find the interview with caulkin after she provided proof of 3 bids but I’m sure (but maybe wrong) it said she had investors and in subsequent caulkin articles he mentions investors. At no point was she buying the club herself I’ll help you out the initial attempt had the backing of Chinese investors, however in the May when Rafa left it’s unknown where the funding was coming from. She’s keen to have Saudi backing as it takes us to next level, however she was happy to go ahead in the May if it had gone ahead. Which makes you’re argument redundant. So if you’re going to attempt to call people out, you really need to know you’re facts. Total guesswork she doesn’t have the money to do it herself. You are the most deluded poster I’ve ever seen. I’ll make it simple for you. It didn’t go ahead in May because it was never going to because she didn’t have the backing I have more reasoned discussions with my 10 year old Wrong she ideally wants serious wealth behind it to take us to the next level. PCP are basically an investment fund and she absolutely could go ahead and do a leveraged buy out akin to Burnley.

Oh dear Excellent she can concentrate on the takeover now. Full steam ahead !! Not sure that’s how she’ll see it. I’m gutted tho I was told on here she was gonna buy the club outright with the Ruebens, I guess that’s off the table now

Oh dear

Mind big RE Maine says we are in the 12th round about 4 months ago

Should be front page of the chronicle that

Goalscorers Petkovic, Fernandes & shick 16/1 Dost, vardy, mallen 11/1

Apologies it’s late Got the 4 British teams at 9/1 Any anytime GS Morelos, saka & Moreno 20/1

The whole point of the forum, a forum, any forum is discussion wether it be agreeing or disagreeing with points of view. Don’t agree with having any thread where you can only comment if it’s to agree with others. That’s mental At a wide view "forums are about discussion" At a more granular level "threads are discussion about specific subjects/ideas" A thread absolutely can have a focus and a tone set, and the posters in it should respect that. You wouldn't jump in the matchday threads to talk about cars and then say "but it's a forum for discussion" when booed, why should this be different? If that common courtesy is "mental" to you I don't know what to say. No but I’d absolutely call out something within the match day thread if it was absolutely bollocks but respect your point of view and all that

The whole point of the forum, a forum, any forum is discussion wether it be agreeing or disagreeing with points of view. Don’t agree with having any thread where you can only comment if it’s to agree with others. That’s mental

f*** sake man. Wake up. It’s not bed wetting It pretty much proves MBS & PIF are far from separate which is the very specific reason Masters gave for the takeover not going thru. You don’t get it or just refuse to get it. It’s got very little to do with the US, oil money or even the murder itself, the PL have accused MBS of being a shadow director and said he must take the O&D test which he simply won’t If piracy is not an issue and legal cases are dropped, where does it say in the test that the Saudi state cannot own the club ? I honestly don’t see how they can clear up the separation issue and it certainly looks like the PL have a very strong case in their belief that MBS & PIF are not seperate So were MBS be dethroned/jailed etc would PIF cease to exist and if not why? No (I’d think) PIF would be controlled by the next ruler but now we are just dealing in hypotheticals

Fuck sake man. Wake up. It’s not bed wetting It pretty much proves MBS & PIF are far from separate which is the very specific reason Masters gave for the takeover not going thru. You don’t get it or just refuse to get it. It’s got very little to do with the US, oil money or even the murder itself, the PL have accused MBS of being a shadow director and said he must take the O&D test which he simply won’t Shouldn’t you be putting this in the other thread......why shit on us all the time....leave us alone? Why would I reply to his post in this thread in the other thread? What is happening to some in here? Losing it The question I keep asking is why you come into this thread anyway.....if it’s simply to wind up the few of us still here hoping for some good news, then perhaps you ought to start your own thread......Possibly titled “Anyone for a wind up”....? Not at all, I come in looking for genuine positive news/possible leads. I’m not on here to wind anyone up but it annoys me when I see utter shite posted like RE Maine & and some guy called Harry and what annoys me even more is the patronising & condescending posts telling someone with a legitimate point that they are wrong and that we just have to W A I T. Fair enough maybe I shouldn’t bite so much For someone who doesn't think the takeover is happening, you dont half spend a lot of time talking about the takeover in the takeover threads. Christ! We get it, you dont think its happening. You dont need to tell everyone 40 time a day. Until today I don’t think I’ve ever definitely said I don’t think it’s going to happen. I’ve been realistic all thru out reacting to the info I have and that’s real info and not de Marco bread pictures or twitter itk’s. I simply won’t accept Harry from twitter as acceptable info that it’s happening So aye try again

f*** sake man. Wake up. It’s not bed wetting It pretty much proves MBS & PIF are far from separate which is the very specific reason Masters gave for the takeover not going thru. You don’t get it or just refuse to get it. It’s got very little to do with the US, oil money or even the murder itself, the PL have accused MBS of being a shadow director and said he must take the O&D test which he simply won’t If piracy is not an issue and legal cases are dropped, where does it say in the test that the Saudi state cannot own the club ? I honestly don’t see how they can clear up the separation issue and it certainly looks like the PL have a very strong case in their belief that MBS & PIF are not seperate

Fuck sake man. Wake up. It’s not bed wetting It pretty much proves MBS & PIF are far from separate which is the very specific reason Masters gave for the takeover not going thru. You don’t get it or just refuse to get it. It’s got very little to do with the US, oil money or even the murder itself, the PL have accused MBS of being a shadow director and said he must take the O&D test which he simply won’t Shouldn’t you be putting this in the other thread......why shit on us all the time....leave us alone? Why would I reply to his post in this thread in the other thread? What is happening to some in here? Losing it The question I keep asking is why you come into this thread anyway.....if it’s simply to wind up the few of us still here hoping for some good news, then perhaps you ought to start your own thread......Possibly titled “Anyone for a wind up”....? Not at all, I come in looking for genuine positive news/possible leads. I’m not on here to wind anyone up but it annoys me when I see utter shite posted like RE Maine & and some guy called Harry and what annoys me even more is the patronising & condescending posts telling someone with a legitimate point that they are wrong and that we just have to W A I T. Fair enough maybe I shouldn’t bite so much

Fuck sake man. Wake up. It’s not bed wetting It pretty much proves MBS & PIF are far from separate which is the very specific reason Masters gave for the takeover not going thru. You don’t get it or just refuse to get it. It’s got very little to do with the US, oil money or even the murder itself, the PL have accused MBS of being a shadow director and said he must take the O&D test which he simply won’t Shouldn’t you be putting this in the other thread......why shit on us all the time....leave us alone? Why would I reply to his post in this thread in the other thread? What is happening to some in here? Losing it

"The" only L O G I C A L outcome "is" that it MUST "be" C L O S E D Wait!!! Interesting how happy some people are when there is news that could negatively impact on our Takeover. Are you all from Sunderland? Nobody is happy about it. Other than Luke Edwards and Steve Bruce. You can't differentiate people wanting it to happen and not believing it will? Weird. Him and Whitley have had similar views about this in the past. Not being blindly optimistic = don't want it to happen/apparently mackem now as well. IMO, this thread would have been quite at home in the Twitter bullshit thread, it seems to be all it's about....... "Let's get ahead of ourselves over random twitter 'ITK's' and call it optimism". Honestly this board and the people within are not happy unless they are wallowing in shit and then complaining about it. The whole forum has become just one big misery wank fest. This thread was set up to try and counter attack the gloom and still the misery wankers come on. If I want misery I go on Twitter, this forum is no longer fun or entertaining and just like NUFC is now. Football is meant to be escapism, to support something and to be part of a collective. NUFC is now just a collective of misery and I wont let it drag me down. So last post in here......enjoy the misery that this forum oozes from every pore and post! Get a grip. It’s misery because of the state of the club and where it’s at. If believing made up shit helps you to delude yourself then fair play to you. If you want escapism then watch a movie, a fairytale perhaps? The majority on this board are realistic. They are miserable because the state of the club is miserable

"The" only L O G I C A L outcome "is" that it MUST "be" C L O S E D Wait!!! Interesting how happy some people are when there is news that could negatively impact on our Takeover. Are you all from Sunderland? No, maybe some people are fed up constantly being told they are wrong when being understandably cautious and fed up being told to wait in a patronising manner

Fuck sake man. Wake up. It’s not bed wetting It pretty much proves MBS & PIF are far from separate which is the very specific reason Masters gave for the takeover not going thru. You don’t get it or just refuse to get it. It’s got very little to do with the US, oil money or even the murder itself, the PL have accused MBS of being a shadow director and said he must take the O&D test which he simply won’t